I’ve always felt the auto systems kept plants small because of the high frequency of watering and no dry out.

My plants get damn near dry dry dry before they get watered.

Oh I do think about stuff like that and on the other hand the roots can grow fully submerged in water so can they really be over watered. Don't get me wrong I get what your saying and do agree
Sorry if it is unhelpful/out of context...I didn't read that far back (LSC is too much to follow but I peek in when :baked: sometimes); but fwiw, when I'm growing 100 day autos, their roots are fully submerged in my SIPs for about 70+ of those days, and they are clean with clear water at chop, and I have no idea what soil PH is throughout a grow (water gets roughly PH'd with drops to the mid-6s going in):

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Could be too much K also pretty sure I see N toxic and Ca deficiency. Haven't check runoff besides volume and I am almost positive I am right around 10-20% runnoff for the day I check that daily.
He is talking about the leaves drooping which is water related! ;)
 
Sorry if it is unhelpful/out of context...I didn't read that far back (LSC is too much to follow but I peek in when :baked: sometimes); but fwiw, when I'm growing 100 day autos, their roots are fully submerged in my SIPs for about 70+ of those days, and they are clean with clear water at chop, and I have no idea what soil PH is throughout a grow (water gets roughly PH'd with drops to the mid-6s going in):

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Nah it's fine sorta the same but sorta different :haha:
 
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Maybe it's the 4 drippers per pot I normally have used 2 but didn't think the 3 gallons were getting fully watered and I grew that beast bubblegum queen with 4 drippers but feed was different feed which is why I keep leaning on feed balance issue and that is why I switched back to MC 1 part for my most recent ones
If only some are droopy try to take away 1 dripper from those pots so u can keep everything the same but those pots will get a bit less each watering!
 
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