11 weeks old dinafem auto cheese, no buds???

[ak47]

thanks allot for some really good advise people, I can only handle 1 or 2 girls in the space available so am gona flip her to 12/12 from the 18/6 cycle and tie her down when needed. However flowering her for another what 8 weeks ??? wont she get root-bound its a 17 litre tank I can just about get my hand in their to check ph/ec and temps

 

[gradolabs]

Sorry about your photo mishaps. Lol. Surprise, it's an eight ft pot plant.

 

[ak47]

it was a freebie from attitude seeds they gave me 6 diff strains and this so-called dinafem cheese auto so I thought I would try this first being the fastest,lol I will be giving the other six away to sum lucky fucker like me. only trusting seeds in breeder packs from now on

 

[Mr Piggy]

I don't know how big his space is, but most sati-dom strains like cheese stretch to 300% their starting size when you flip to 12/12. That thing is already huge, he could EASILY run into space management problems, or even worse bugs or mold with a plant that big and bushy. If you start with 8-10 small clones and flip them to 12/12 as soon as they're rooted, you'll get 8-12 medium sized single cola plants that could yield up to an ounce or so a piece. That thing, flipped to 12/12, would turn into a monster and probably create more problems than it's worth.

I guess to answer your question, yeah, you could just flip her, but I think there are other options that make more sense.

I doubt she'll get 300% bigger, that's a bit of a stretch ( )

I also fail to see how her being large and bushy would cause pest to magically manifest or mold to appear. If you'd explain how bugs or mold are more likely to appear that would help.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

low_and_slow, fair enough; and thanks for not ripping into me for disagreeing with you. I definitely agree there are many options on the plate for him; I was just offering my thoughts if I were in a similar position; same as you

Oh btw, it's menage a trois ;-)

That damned google spelling let me down lol!

Stitch, I was merely defending Dinafem from your jab (which was clearly made in jest, I understand your position as a seed breeder.) I just happen to grow Dinafem plants and I honestly would put their seeds and genetics up to the test vs. anything else out there, so if I offer rebuttal to your comments in that regard; it's not me trying to attack you or your knowledge and experience; it's just me saying "hey, I've grown from this particular company, I personally have had AWESOME luck with both their autos and photo strains", and that I just don't want anyone to be mislead that Dinafem has crappy genetics, because that's clearly not the case. I've never grown your seeds before; so as far as I known, world renown or not, you're are just as good as the seeds I find in my random sacks Of course, if I manage to get my hands on your purple mazar, maybe I'll sing you a different tune

ak47, I literally just harvested my Dinafem Auto White Cheese two weeks ago, if you want some tips or reference notes; check out my 2nd grow journal in the New Growers Forum. I started showing flowers after like Day 22 from seed though; so I would definitely see if that 12/12 switch helps out. stitch's comment about the percentage of the strain that could be "non-auto" seems to make sense; that would also explain why some of the strains in my own tent are only doing what I'm dubbing a "half flower" on the 18/6 light cycle. If they have more photo than auto in them, of course they wouldn't be responding to 18 hours of light (other than vegging like a mofo.)

So is it the ruderalis in the auto's that make them actually auto? How dominant does ruderalis have to be to make the plant switch it's life cycle up like that? I've seen some breeders say their seeds are ruderalis dominant (instead of indica/sativa.) Would there ever be a time you would want a ruderalis dominant plant as opposed to a sativa/indica with a small amount of ruderalis breed in.

 

[low_and_slow]

300% is a 3x stretch...i.e. a 12" plant becomes a 3' plant. That's not unreasonable for cheese, I've seen plenty of logs where big plants turned into huge plants, especially in DWC at a 2.2 EC, she'll absolutely blow up. Considering it's his 2nd grow, I don't see the problem throwing some clones in 2g smart pots and crossing your fingers while the mother continues to veg over on the side. Worst case, you throw the dead clones out and flip anyway and just deal with it.

As far as mold/bugs, I'd say that any moisture coming off DWC (which can inherently increase humidity) could result in powdery mildew if the canopy doesn't circulate air...basically just trapping evaporation under the canopy and keeping the foliage wet or damper than usual. That's just advice I've collected over the internet, any photo plant I've grown thus far has been in soil and has been lollipopped to prevent air circulation issues. Even plants in hydro can develop problems, whether it's from the air supply being "regular" and not filtered, or from crap coming into the grow room on your clothes/shoes/equipment/pets, etc. I didn't purposely infest my tent with fungus gnats, but lo and behold, there they are flitting about...came in through some seed starter I picked up at the hardware store and a bag of Roots Organics I used. In a super dense, bushy plant like that, the odds of being able to eradicate a problem are significantly less than if he went to town pruning/lollipopping, tied her down hardcore, then flipped. Honestly, guys, I don't think it matter what happens, my point is just that any competent grower will tell you to clean up a plant that looks like that before going to flower, it's for the plant/finished product's best interest. I know Seymour Buds lets his plants do whatever in DWC and doesn't prune/defoliate at all, but that's more based on the fact that he grows true autos for his epic logs, this is clearly a photo or a non-auto pheno.

 

[dildano]

it was a freebie from attitude seeds they gave me 6 diff strains and this so-called dinafem cheese auto so I thought I would try this first being the fastest,lol I will be giving the other six away to sum lucky fucker like me. only trusting seeds in breeder packs from now on

I can't see your video, but I also had 1 freebie dinafem cheese auto with my previous grow, and while all my white widows produced buds, the cheese started budding, but then it quickly stopped and stretched like an idiot it nearly poked my tent. Your description sounds similar, but I can't see your vid. it was also from attitude. I can understand you don't expect much from a freebie, but it costs a lot to grow one, .. :/