Can anybody help? What is this and how do I correct it?
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The most likely thing would be nutrient lockout from your soil pH being off. Are you feeding any nutrients or just plain water? At what pH are your water/feedings and what is the pH of your run off water?
I'm feeding a Bennie tea consisting of Mendiceno honey, hygrozyme,nitrozyme, mykos every 2 weeks. I haven't checked the ph of the tea. I was told ph doesn't matter with TLO. Other the the tea it's plain water o2 saturated at ph 7. I tested the run of of the most damaged plant at ph5. I ran 5 gallons of clean h20 through her. But after the flush the symptoms continued to get worse.
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I'm feeding a Bennie tea consisting of Mendiceno honey, hygrozyme,nitrozyme, mykos every 2 weeks. I haven't checked the ph of the tea. I was told ph doesn't matter with TLO. Other the the tea it's plain water o2 saturated at ph 7. I tested the run of of the most damaged plant at ph5. I ran 5 gallons of clean h20 through her. But after the flush the symptoms continued to get worse.
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I want to add that I've read a lot of your post muddy. I trust your opinion just tell me what to do and I'll do it.
Could this be early fade? Should I top dress with more super soil?
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I'm feeding a Bennie tea consisting of Mendiceno honey, hygrozyme,nitrozyme, mykos every 2 weeks. I haven't checked the ph of the tea. I was told ph doesn't matter with TLO. Other the the tea it's plain water o2 saturated at ph 7. I tested the run of of the most damaged plant at ph5. I ran 5 gallons of clean h20 through her. But after the flush the symptoms continued to get worse.
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I want to add that I've read a lot of your post muddy. I trust your opinion just tell me what to do and I'll do it.
Could this be early fade? Should I top dress with more super soil?
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Isn't flushing the soil the last thing you want to do with TLO?
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I wish people would stop saying pH doesn't matter with TLO because it does. That may be true IF your soil is pH balanced to start with. But if you're feeding at 7 and getting run off at 5, your actual soil pH is probably very low, possibly as low as 3! Did you add any lime to your mix? If not, you need to add some. If you did add lime, it may not have been enough. I would suggest mixing in 2 tablespoons of dolomite lime per gallon of soil mix. Just keep in mind that the lime will take about 2 weeks to become effective so the results won't be immediate.
I wish you hadn't flushed them. Flushing leaches out the soil nutrients. So yes, a top dressing may be needed to replenish them. But again, the top dressing must be at the proper pH. I would also suggest you pH balance your tea before feeding. Given that your pH is so low I would suggest that you adjust it on the high side to help balance the low soil pH.
I wish you hadn't flushed them. Flushing leaches out the soil nutrients. So yes, a top dressing may be needed to replenish them. But again, the top dressing must be at the proper pH. I would also suggest you pH balance your tea before feeding. Given that your pH is so low I would suggest that you adjust it on the high side to help balance the low soil pH.
I'm using the tga pre bagged super soil. It's supposed to have lime in it. But to be honest I never tested it before putting the plants in. But some of the plants are fine some a little sick one it really bad and one is thriving. I'm new to TLO so I don't know much but logically it seems if the soil ph was to low it would effect the plants equally. I don't think I will use anymore tea just fresh clean water the rest of the way. And I will top dress. Can I top feed some dolomite lime and water it in? Will that help anything?
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That would surprise me to find a pre bagged soil with pH readings that low. Are you sure your readings were correct? Most manufacturers try to adjust the pH of their mixes to a neutral pH of 7.
Well I checked the run off of the sickest plant using the ph drop from GH. It turned orange which is ph 5. But honestly the sickness looks more like a fungus. It starts as orange spots then advanced stages look like a brownish muck and during crusty leaves.
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The orange/rust colored spots are how the calcium deficiency shows. The crusty leaves, especially along the edges are symptoms of P and K deficiencies. When you have nutrient lock out, you get both since all those elements are unavailable to the plant. Different strains, and even different phenotypes of the same strain, can be effected differently. So the fact that other plants aren't showing the same symptoms has no bearing. Have you checked the pH on those plants? If not, I would suggest doing so. I wouldn't be surprised if they are low as well. I highly recommend you add lime as I suggested in post #5.
Thanx muddy for everything. I truly appreciate you taking the time out to offer help. I'm only about 3 weeks from finish I'll see if I can get my hands on some lime and work it in. I just hope it does it's thing in time.
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