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[Farqual]

Info. This is critical Purple Auto from growers choice. We are on day 60 with about three weeks left to ripen. Plant is in a 1 gal smart pot with root organic coco under a 4 ‘ t5 with mostly 6500k bulbs one 3000k red. Feeding is around half a gal every other day with mix being canna coco a+b at 7 ml rhizotonic 1ml cannazym 9.5ml liquid koolbloom 5ml mammothP .6 ml and cal mag plus at 4ml. This is per gal. Ph at 6.2 in and out of pot. And light is about 14 in above canopy.

I’ve been growing for a few years and have dealt with most garbage that happens in a garden. Ie: mold, mites deficiencies of all nature over and under watering light burn and lack there of but this is a puzzler for me.

Any input would be appreciated. I can’t figure out why she looks so darn sad. This has been over the last 13 days. Same saggy sad leaves. I was thinking maybe, just maybe I’m not feeding quite enough( new to the Auto game and have been taking it down to half strength the entire grow) I’m learning the curve for autos and didn’t want to ruin the two girls I managed to get out of a funky batch of beans.


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[Waira]

...not sure about that kind of droops myself,.. I see it fairly often, but never find a common connection,... seems wet/dry is out for sure though from what I gather,... I think it might be nutrient related? The petioles don't look to be at a droopy angle, it's the leaf bowing mostly,... You're right, I think she's a bit underfed from the looks of the leaves and stem (purple striping, a long term symptom of general low nute availability,).. think I see a touch of K defc on the margin teeth tips,... budding looks a bit sparse, more PK needed,... the lights, are they grow specific horticulture grade types? lots of high K there, maybe not enough proper red wavelengths for blooming stage,...? .... I'm not at all familiar with that breeder,... but at 60 days she's behind the curve for sure, especially given her size,... we see a lot of half baked genetics in auto's these days, could very well be that this strain isn't dialed in well yet,... IMO, if an auto takes 11+ weeks, and it's not a monster in DWC and /or a heavy sativa dominant strain, it's not well bred yet,.. with total times like that, one might as well have grown a photo plant, right? .... Sweet, Mephisto, Dinafem, and some others do have some select strains that are very speedy, a few under 8 weeks!
.... env. stuff looks OK, so try upping the feds a bit more,.. I suspect the droops may never go away, seems often as not it becomes permanent past a certain amount of time,.. but not to bad effect on the plant, necessarily, good harvests can be had!

 

[Farqual]

...not sure about that kind of droops myself,.. I see it fairly often, but never find a common connection,... seems wet/dry is out for sure though from what I gather,... I think it might be nutrient related? The petioles don't look to be at a droopy angle, it's the leaf bowing mostly,... You're right, I think she's a bit underfed from the looks of the leaves and stem (purple striping, a long term symptom of general low nute availability,).. think I see a touch of K defc on the margin teeth tips,... budding looks a bit sparse, more PK needed,... the lights, are they grow specific horticulture grade types? lots of high K there, maybe not enough proper red wavelengths for blooming stage,...? .... I'm not at all familiar with that breeder,... but at 60 days she's behind the curve for sure, especially given her size,... we see a lot of half baked genetics in auto's these days, could very well be that this strain isn't dialed in well yet,... IMO, if an auto takes 11+ weeks, and it's not a monster in DWC and /or a heavy sativa dominant strain, it's not well bred yet,.. with total times like that, one might as well have grown a photo plant, right? .... Sweet, Mephisto, Dinafem, and some others do have some select strains that are very speedy, a few under 8 weeks!
.... env. stuff looks OK, so try upping the feds a bit more,.. I suspect the droops may never go away, seems often as not it becomes permanent past a certain amount of time,.. but not to bad effect on the plant, necessarily, good harvests can be had!

I went ahead and doses up on the pk yesterday. Ended up giving her damn near full strength and went to my old line of cns17 because I know what works with it. Did 30ml of the bloom and 50 of some kB just to try and help along with calmag. She took half a gallon and seems to be picking up a bit this morning. I’ll add some pics after a while.


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[bignugz420]

...not sure about that kind of droops myself,.. I see it fairly often, but never find a common connection,... seems wet/dry is out for sure though from what I gather,... I think it might be nutrient related? The petioles don't look to be at a droopy angle, it's the leaf bowing mostly,... You're right, I think she's a bit underfed from the looks of the leaves and stem (purple striping, a long term symptom of general low nute availability,).. think I see a touch of K defc on the margin teeth tips,... budding looks a bit sparse, more PK needed,... the lights, are they grow specific horticulture grade types? lots of high K there, maybe not enough proper red wavelengths for blooming stage,...? .... I'm not at all familiar with that breeder,... but at 60 days she's behind the curve for sure, especially given her size,... we see a lot of half baked genetics in auto's these days, could very well be that this strain isn't dialed in well yet,... IMO, if an auto takes 11+ weeks, and it's not a monster in DWC and /or a heavy sativa dominant strain, it's not well bred yet,.. with total times like that, one might as well have grown a photo plant, right? .... Sweet, Mephisto, Dinafem, and some others do have some select strains that are very speedy, a few under 8 weeks!
.... env. stuff looks OK, so try upping the feds a bit more,.. I suspect the droops may never go away, seems often as not it becomes permanent past a certain amount of time,.. but not to bad effect on the plant, necessarily, good harvests can be had!

If your running coco I would flush with ph water first then feed but heavy on P and K and I would then weigh it to see how much it is once it gets A LOT lighter than I would feed again most people don’t realize that you have to let roots COMPLETELY dry out for healthy roots it helps them get longer Bc they are searching for food also water starting from rim of pot in so you can get roots reaching for food I think it’s over watering but you said you have been doing this for years so maybe it is genetics idk I hope she gets better for you CRITICAL is a GREAT strain


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[Farqual]

If your running coco I would flush with ph water first then feed but heavy on P and K and I would then weigh it to see how much it is once it gets A LOT lighter than I would feed again most people don’t realize that you have to let roots COMPLETELY dry out for healthy roots it helps them get longer Bc they are searching for food also water starting from rim of pot in so you can get roots reaching for food I think it’s over watering but you said you have been doing this for years so maybe it is genetics idk I hope she gets better for you CRITICAL is a GREAT strain


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Good looking out friend.
I did an extreme flush with 3 gallons of ph water and let her dry out to a point that the weight of the plant was more than the pot and she tipped over then I hit her hard with bloom and calmag and a pk boost. The feeding was two days ago now and she still is sad looking. Her sister ( bean from same batch) looks a million times better and almost like a completely different strain... it’s amazing and quite frustrating that I can’t figure it out. It’s very possible that it’s just gens... ugh. Thanks for the input and I’ll keep tinkering and searching for info until it’s time for her to give up the goods.


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[bignugz420]

Root bound?


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[bignugz420]

And watch cal-mag a side from it is nitrogen I cut cal-mag out after week 2 or 3 of flowering unless there is a def


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[bignugz420]

I have had Barney’s farm Critical Kush In my garden for a year I finally am done with it for good i am close to finishing the mother plant and it’s a year old with so many cuts it’s crazy but look at her it could be genetics but I have dropped 5 beans of it in my life nothing has ever been a problem I couldn’t fix with playing with food or environment or something that just had to hit her sweet spot what’s your run off at and ph going in?


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[bignugz420]

she will be done this weekend or early next week


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[Farqual]

And watch cal-mag a side from it is nitrogen I cut cal-mag out after week 2 or 3 of flowering unless there is a def


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Could be seeing as they are only in one gals but the felt allows them to explore into the tray and I haven’t seen any bad effects on the other plant. I usually use cal mag until week 3 or 4 on my photos unless there is an issue later on. ( kind of like a fix all at times ) in the process of making larger felt pots for the next go around. Trying 3 gal.


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