Hot soil problems

[TreyDogg]

This plant is in kind soil she is auto blue in week six now from seed.

This plant has leaves starting to yellow on the bottom. she is gorilla glue in about week five. She is in mophisto soil.

All I have given is distilled water. In a day or so I will have some organic cal mag. I also have mammoth p I have not given either to them yet.

 

[namvet25]

It's normal for a few bottom leaves to yellow so just remove them.Cal/Mag is very important especially during flower.

 

[Waira]

Trey...need more pics of whole plant, age, if you're pH'ing the water (DI/RO has no buffering minerals in it, so any pH'ing will produce wild swings and instability),... KS doesn't recommend using that pure of water partly for this reason... have to taken in-pot pH measurements? Whether it's KS or Mephisto's add-in mix, monitoring the pH is very important to ensure proper nutrient uptake,....
..first pic looks like Ca defc., so start that Ca-Mg right away, including it in your DI water... Second, I'm with Nammy, that looks like typical fan tapping for N mostly, causing that overall yellowing,.. this is why I need whole plant pics and age, to see if it's starting too early in bloom cycle, which would indicate depletion of N sources in the soil,... some mild organic grow nute's will help if this is the case...

 

[TreyDogg]

 

[TreyDogg]

Trey...need more pics of whole plant, age, if you're pH'ing the water (DI/RO has no buffering minerals in it, so any pH'ing will produce wild swings and instability),... KS doesn't recommend using that pure of water partly for this reason... have to taken in-pot pH measurements? Whether it's KS or Mephisto's add-in mix, monitoring the pH is very important to ensure proper nutrient uptake,....
..first pic looks like Ca defc., so start that Ca-Mg right away, including it in your DI water... Second, I'm with Nammy, that looks like typical fan tapping for N mostly, causing that overall yellowing,.. this is why I need whole plant pics and age, to see if it's starting too early in bloom cycle, which would indicate depletion of N sources in the soil,... some mild organic grow nute's will help if this is the case...

The kind soil one is on the right in the front. The rest mophisto. I just got my cal mag in and have feed them that and mammoth p. I will buy soil oh tester off Amazon today. The plants are just over 5 weeks at this point. I'm a sad panda today as I look at them

 

[Waira]

oh yeah, the Mammoth P! Excellent stuff, it'll help a lot with the P defc. KS plant... I used it to very good effect on my KS plants to jet more P into them during that defc. crisis! I also had to use strong synthetic nutes for several feedings to get ahead of the demand, but these were outdoor photo plants, large in their pot size... you can also try dilute strength bloom or PK booster feeds to get right-now available P into the KS girl, a little run of this won't ruin anything about the "organic" advantages of this grow... then keep on with organic bloom nutes,... what do you have for synth. bloom feed, and what are the NPK #'s?

 

[TreyDogg]

I have no nutes at all but what I listed mammoth p and cal mag. I can get some if needed my goal started as water only but that has gone off track. My plan for next few days is mammoth p and cal mag. You say I should get some organic bloom nutes.

 

[Waira]

.. Ca-Mg is a supplement, a specific nute element source, which most ferts have in them already,.. the soil has sources mixed in, but with pure water, it may not be enough, the demand is a highly variable thing... Mammoth is only a microbe suspension specialized for P cycling and increased availability, and is totally different from other typical myco' inoculants... so yes, you'll need some nutes, organic if you want to stay that course,.. Roots and General Organics have good nute lines... GO has a nice package deal called the GO Box, with everything you need for the entire grow, including some important supplements to make the most of your buds!

 

[TreyDogg]

So my next grow would you skip kind soil altogether and go organic nutes? My hope was not to have a bunch of nutes laying around the place. I've seen some people pull off the kind soil with only water and one or two supplements. But it is looking like that might not happen. Also I've switched to spring water now.

 

[Waira]

:smoking:... did you use the recommended amount of KS per gal pot size? Depletion issues have occurred, but it's not happening often that I've seen, ...however I'm not following it all that closely currently,.. i know we have had mixed results with KS, some rocking good, others not so much,.. again, keeping on top of your in-pot pH is critical, because organics ( by nutes or any "supersoil" type product) need the soil microbes to be in healthy stout populations to keep breaking things down and making them available,... off pH will harm them, and lower their populations down,... So, until we have that pH, I can't say if this is happening because you're soil is tapped out or there's a pH issue causing both lockout and poor nutrient cycling withing the soil,...or even a combo of both! The plants aren't overgrown in their pots, so it would seem unlikely that they've tapped out the soil unless there wasn't at least the recommended amount in there,...
Keep in mind that at this stage, some of the fans will be starting to get tapped out, usually the lowers, and fairly gradually... that one with damaged leaves up higher is looking like P defc. as well; when you start to get broad patches of dead tissue, it's P defc.; Ca and P defc. can look a a lot alike early on, but the new whole plant pics show things better, so keep on with the Ca-Mg, and get some organic nutes (or synthetic if you don't care that much) and boost the P up in there.. she's making nice bud, so she's tapping the fans out for P!