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[Frankthetank]

 

[Lil Dab]

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[Waira]

Yeah that one blows my mind would love to try it but I would never spend that kind of money on a seed. Think that’s the most expensive I’ve seen but T20, NO and a couple others are far behind asking for 20$ a seed. And your right the more I learn and I dig deeper I notice all the big names is the same stuff over and over. Which makes me appreciate ones like I’m growing now more

Truth is, that's hardly the worst! The elite cuts from some "renowned" breeders who made seeds from said cuts can get $1000's for a dozen reg's, sometimes fems! Copy Cat is infamous for this (among many others), dude is a millionaire because of it... Everybody knows the instant a new release is out, it's value drops by the second basically because it's going to get repro'ed... So they charge up the ass coz they know they will get it!
Hype, marketing, some genuine success/remarkable quality keeps that train rolling, but it's not always worth it...
I'm downstream of one such private breeder who does exactly this... Lot's of custom crosses get made too -
The last few years at least a couple of these photo's get run by my lucky ass -

@Waira has no patience, he must have been that young kid that always asked his parents every few minutes "are we there yet?"

I agree @Waira in regards of speedy autos, we're trying to get there, but not all our strains are quick finishers.

Highrise put out some great genetics

-- no they drugged me with benadryl so I'd not drive them cray-cray!

Speed isn't always easy to get, most folks don't realize this... Sometimes it comes easy, others it's multi-gen' work... If at all, and any cross breeding for speed waters down the original, so catch-22 there as well...
I found the common misperception is that auto = speed, and small blame, it often does....but "auto'ing" isn't about speed at all really, it's the fact that the plant will go into bloom regardless of light/dark hours. When it does is the hitch, right?
You know this better than most!
Lil'Stick is plenty fast considering her landrace roots -

Are you hip to something called Thai-Pan 2.0? According the La Buena Hierba, who used it in his Asian Haze cross along with Meao Thai, it's a natural "semi-auto"... It makes me wonder more about the fab' Thai you got over there, maybe a mountain highland queen adapted to a shorter season?
It also made me recall a mate Tobe here, who got some Papua New Guinea landrace a while back... growing them out, he and a couple others found pheno's that bloomed under 18+ light hours! The source was legit BTW, no iffy shit about it... otherwise the parents were typical equatorial long season bloomers...
I'm told it's rare but other olde heirloom/landrace NLD cultivars may show this on rare occasion... Hence the suspicion that there is more than one "auto'ing" genetic mechanism out there!
I can see why in a natural population, such aberrations could persist... normal breeding cycle can be mucked up by some disaster,...weather, etc., and any plants blooming off-cycle may succeed where the main population may not... Plus I can't see anything negative against this, meaning no natural selection forces against it so it also persists in a given population.

Anyway, I've seen some auto' plants come into Sick Bay holding out 2-3+ months before they finally triggered-
Usually folks do a light dep' trick before this, in case the auto, isn't....
That said, the trend generally holds, particularly with so called fast versions, usually F1 auto/photo crosses... It can do amazing things!
A couple years ago I ran one of Krk's project crosses, a Punto Rojo auto in the making using his C99a of course. The PR came from a forum mate who's been preserving several NLD equatorial types for many years...
The mother PR is a 14-16 week bloomer... At F3, no selection for auto's (yet), just looking for PR leaners, inside they are down to about 8 weeks bloom; mine finished OD's, late start+ small pots, in about 6 weeks! Very PR, not a hint of C99a aside from the speed... Excellent soaring zippy-trippy high!

 

[LaughingHyenaSeeds]

@Waira

You are correct not all autos are fast, some can go over 100 days.

I haven't heard of Thai-Pan 2.0.

I believe there is a landrace from Morocco (Beldia) I've read online people mention it's an auto or at a minimum semi-auto

We got our Thai Stick from Chang Mai Thailand, but I believe Thai Stick originated from Isaan Thailand.

As you pretty much said. Over the years (talking decades for landraces) depending on where the strain is grown, it will get accustomed to the environment.

We are working on a few other landranc to auto projects. Will provide more information once they're closer to being done.

I remember reading KRK's story, he's a great breeder

 

[Lil Dab]

Everyone is doing great not much happening turned the light up a touch 400 umol on4/25 and on 4/27 gave them another fertigation 300ppm 16% runnoff.

4/28 Day 10

Lil Stick

Northern Berry

Sowahh Queen

Dead Skunk

 

[Lil Dab]

Day 12 pots were light and tops were dry so I gave all the girls a fertigation of 400ppm 20% runoff. I'm going to turn the light up a little more tonight tomorrow 500umol 18/6 That's it for now temp and Rh have been good 75-80f 65% rh

Dead Skunk

Lil Stick

Northern Berry

Sowahh Queen

Also I had gave the pots a dosage of pot popper nematodes when they sprouted and another tonight they should be good haven't seen any gnats and don't want to we are heading into the season

 

[Lil Dab]

Day 14 Folair feed 1/6tsp kelp, 1/4tsp Fulvic, and 1/32 Yucca