Nute problem...? or another unknown problem...pls HELP !!!

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Hey guys, I'm in real need of help, as I am a new at this(first time) !!!

Let's start from the beginning : - lights : 400W HPS ( cool tube ) + 4 x 180W CFL's cool daylight
- in-line - out-line for air circulation
- temp is at a steady rate of 24.8-25 Celsius
- humidity at 48-50%
- 3 small ventilators for extra air circulation and root and stems strengthening
- light is about 45-50 cm from tops
- they are now 25 days old from the day they put their head out of the ground and around 25-30 cm
- medium : potting soil with perlite mix(30%) with very small amounts of npk and a ph of 5.5-6
- they were on 24/0 light schedule and from 2 days ago on 20/4 (got a bit freaked reading on-line about how they need at list a little bit of sleep in order to fully develop...)
- I have 5xBigDevilXl , 3xChronic(not sure), 1x......(not sure), - long story,don't ask :) but still all of them auto-flowers. I did the mistake and didn't put them from the beginning in soil (as I supposed to..) , except one(which btw is doing better then all of them) and put them there after they broke out from the shell . In the beginning straight ph water(which I measure with a ph test kit, the one where u put 2 drops and u have to see the color change ,i'm keeping it as much as possible around 6.3-6.5 ) until the third set of fan leafs took off then I've started with Aptus nutes as follows : Regulator + Start Booster + Supervit(everything at half measures) , all was perfect, started growing good, with some small discolorations which I thought were from a lack of N , so, next watering(4 days later) I put the same nutes+10% more and I added N(were I made the mistake of putting full dosage) then everything went to hell...i put some pics for u 2 see maybe we can find some solutions together . Some of them display nute burns, some of them yellowing...I flushed of course with Flora Kleen 4 days ago and normally today is feeding time, what to do? , should I continue with just ph water, should I continue with half amounts + NPK at half power or...? Btw, what do u think about the size for 3.5 weeks (on the package it says 9.5 weeks from start to finish) ?? I know the light is not enough, and even though I have a 600 HPS which is not new(not even close) , I prefer the 400 which was brand new, and I think it's gonna put out more lumens then the old 600.
Pls I need a quick answer , cause I have to water them today and don't know what to do...
Many thank in advance for any help or advice :)
 
Wow, heard of paragraphs bro.....lol.. Just messin with ya.

Thing with different strains is all might need different amounts mixing up.

Alright let's have a look,

What size tent? Don't think 400 or 600 is the problem.

Can't see any pics.

What are they like now?

If in doubt just use water for now.
So you need to water evey day?
 
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sorry about long paragraphs , but i'm in panic :)

Tent size : 2.40 / 1.20 / 2.00 meters
No, I water every 3-4 days and I put 0.7 - 1 l water with a little bit of run off

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And forgot to mention : today I noticed they started flowering...not a bit to early at 3.5 weeks ??
 
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Do the easy one first, lol

Can start to see flowers now no problem :thumbs:

Look droopy through over/under watering only you can know that. Do you do the heavy pot...light pot test? IE: let it dry out before watering or just water as per your schedule?

Most burns/marks on the plants are through over feeding at this stage.

But saying that the yellow leaf is underfeeding.

If you flushed then I would feed the yellowing one with some root stim or veg neuts.


Just to say this is in my experience and I am in no way a pro or even a experienced grower really. But I've done a few now.
 
Anyone ?? :(

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it is due to under watering, normally today i should water
yes, I let it dry before watering
so, even though they started flowering i shouldn't start with flowering nutes but back with veg nutes?

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u meant overfeeding with water or with nutes? :)

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Btw, thx for the input !

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what about the size for this age?
 
Just put some veg neuts in with the water and flower neuts.

I did this with a ec of 0.9 and pH around 6.5. I used the last dose that I had been on for the root stim and half of what I used of bloom neuts. If that makes sense. If not just say and I'll try again.

This is for the yellowing leaves.


I meant over feed with neuts at this stage, not water . Sorry wasn't quite clear.

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Size I so dependant on so many factors. I don't know any of the strains you have , sorry.

But they look like a good height to me. Are they indica or savita? Indica stay smaller I think than the others.


Atb bro
 
all clear :)
thx 4 the advice ! I've already recalculated the formula with 10% less then the first time (when it went ok ) just 2 b on the safe side :)
 
May I suggest you pop over to the intro section and start a hello thread.

You don't have to give personal info, just a hello and stuff.

Maybe start a grow diary?

No pressure to do either dude, but sometimes it can help when any questions come up as people can look at the grow and help more. Plus more people see you around more help you are likely to get help more quick.

And just cause you are new to it doesn't mean your experience doesn't count or can't help someone else.

Great people here that don't judge and just want to help others out.


Atb
 
I measure with a ph test kit, the one where u put 2 drops and u have to see the color change ,i'm keeping it as much as possible around 6.3-6.5

I don't know why they even sell those test strip kits to gardeners, I suspect they've done more damage than good. They are grossly inaccurare, the may be off one full unit or more, so a 6.0 could be 5.0 or 7.0! Get a PH Meter! If you can afford it, a good one will cost $40-$90. You might get by for a bit with a cheap, Chinese one, but you my have to buy three to get one good one...lol.
 
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