Slowly Spreading

[ThaGreenBandit]

I have something going on, and I was hoping I could get an assist. At first, I thought it was a calcium lockout due to too much N, but then I started thinking it may be a P deficiency. Anywho, I'm all over the place, and I think I need a cooler head to chime in. Any assistance will be greatly appreciated. Here are some pics. Anything else needed, please ask, and I'll provide the info. Hopefully the afn fam can help me get a handle on this before I go crazy

 

[mohawk warrior]

I'm gonna say you just fried it.... a lil to much juice, you got that claw happening..

i'd give it a good flush for a bit ,then smack it with some b vitamins, some cal mag and about half strength of w/e you did last time.... then go from there...

but I'm sure our resident doctor will hop in here soon

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

I'm gonna say you just fried it.... a lil to much juice, you got that claw happening..

i'd give it a good flush for a bit ,then smack it with some b vitamins, some cal mag and about half strength of w/e you did last time.... then go from there...

but I'm sure our resident doctor will hop in here soon

No nutes used, just teas. Can't really flush, as I'm in a 4'×4' square smart pot in a 4'×4' tent. For the past week, they've had nothing but water

 

[mohawk warrior]

No nutes used, just teas.

don't ask me why, but some part of me thought this when I seen the straw.... I would still dilute them a bit more man but I'm not a tea guy really, but same concept applies
the brew is strong with this one...
@Waira will sort you out if not drop by live stoner chat smoke some and ask the people

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

don't ask me why, but some part of me thought this when I seen the straw.... I would still dilute them a bit more man but I'm not a tea guy really, but same concept applies
the brew is strong with this one...
@Waira will sort you out if not drop by live stoner chat smoke some and ask the people

Thanks for pointing me in the right direction!

 

[Waira]

TGB, what's up? So, you're in a big square smarty, what kinda soil? Are you running a no-nute's super soil base or something? In any case, a pH reading in there would be very helpful,.. have you scored that Accurate 8 pH probe I've been barking about yet? Cannot be beat brudda, and in this situation, it's the only thing that will work,... Since it's teas only though, my thinking is it's lack-of defc.'s kicking in,.. lowers do look a lot like P defc., with the broad wasting patches, but others are in play for sure,.. that pale top looks like it could be S, maybe Zn, Mn,... Can you get some Earth Juice Microblast? This stuff is awesome, full micro-nute coverage, much of it compounded with sulfates, so that base gets covered too,... As you know, the pH deal is to make sure that's not the problem, and adding more nutes will make matters potentially worse,...doesn't seem likely given things, but never rule it out! meantime, some epsoms will give the S (if that's what that paleness is, could be something else, or a combo defc. thing too),.. micro's, there no work-around, you need real foods, not teas,.. P can get in that way though,... got bat-poops? Or organic bottled stuff? Roots HPK is a nice product, liquid poops basically,... what's with the hay and weeds?

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

TGB, what's up? So, you're in a big square smarty, what kinda soil? Are you running a no-nute's super soil base or something? In any case, a pH reading in there would be very helpful,.. have you scored that Accurate 8 pH probe I've been barking about yet? Cannot be beat brudda, and in this situation, it's the only thing that will work,... Since it's teas only though, my thinking is it's lack-of defc.'s kicking in,.. lowers do look a lot like P defc., with the broad wasting patches, but others are in play for sure,.. that pale top looks like it could be S, maybe Zn, Mn,... Can you get some Earth Juice Microblast? This stuff is awesome, full micro-nute coverage, much of it compounded with sulfates, so that base gets covered too,... As you know, the pH deal is to make sure that's not the problem, and adding more nutes will make matters potentially worse,...doesn't seem likely given things, but never rule it out! meantime, some epsoms will give the S (if that's what that paleness is, could be something else, or a combo defc. thing too),.. micro's, there no work-around, you need real foods, not teas,.. P can get in that way though,... got bat-poops? Or organic bottled stuff? Roots HPK is a nice product, liquid poops basically,... what's with the hay and weeds?

@A4 put me on the Accurate 8 when I first started growing, so you know that stays in my toolbox! LOL
Here's what my soil is made up of:
Base Soil:
25% Earthworm castings/leaf compost
25% Lobster compost/cow manure and compost mix (50/50)
25% Peat moss
25% Grow stones/Rice hulls (50/50 mix)

Mineral Mix (Per Cubic Ft):
1/3C Gypsum
1/3C Azomite
1C Dolomite lime
1C Green sand

Amendments (Per Cubic Ft):
1/2C Alfalfa meal
1C Neem seed meal
1C Kelp meal
1C Crab meal
1/2C Fish meal
1C Fish bone meal

2.5lbs Oyster shell (total)
1 Cu. Ft. Humus
1 pound red wiggler worms.
Cover crop

 

[Waira]

..mmmm, I'm not a custom soil builder myself, but it looks complete,... begs the pH question then, that or it's not cooked quite enough? best thing about that A8, you can take pH at specific sites and depths,.. check the soil in her root zone mate,... Oh, how warm is it in there? If you're getting into the 50's, then cold is part if not entirely the problem,.. nute uptake/transport suffers with cool temps,...might be slow enough to not meet demands...

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

TGB, what's up? So, you're in a big square smarty, what kinda soil? Are you running a no-nute's super soil base or something? In any case, a pH reading in there would be very helpful,.. have you scored that Accurate 8 pH probe I've been barking about yet? Cannot be beat brudda, and in this situation, it's the only thing that will work,... Since it's teas only though, my thinking is it's lack-of defc.'s kicking in,.. lowers do look a lot like P defc., with the broad wasting patches, but others are in play for sure,.. that pale top looks like it could be S, maybe Zn, Mn,... Can you get some Earth Juice Microblast? This stuff is awesome, full micro-nute coverage, much of it compounded with sulfates, so that base gets covered too,... As you know, the pH deal is to make sure that's not the problem, and adding more nutes will make matters potentially worse,...doesn't seem likely given things, but never rule it out! meantime, some epsoms will give the S (if that's what that paleness is, could be something else, or a combo defc. thing too),.. micro's, there no work-around, you need real foods, not teas,.. P can get in that way though,... got bat-poops? Or organic bottled stuff? Roots HPK is a nice product, liquid poops basically,... what's with the hay and weeds?

The hay and the cover crop do a few things; the hay helps keep the soil moist, the clover cover crop provides N. It's standard practice for no till growing. I do have some Roots HPK, as this is what I was using before I went to no till

 

[ThaGreenBandit]

..mmmm, I'm not a custom soil builder myself, but it looks complete,... begs the pH question then, that or it's not cooked quite enough? best thing about that A8, you can take pH at specific sites and depths,.. check the soil in her root zone mate,... Oh, how warm is it in there? If you're getting into the 50's, then cold is part if not entirely the problem,.. nute uptake/transport suffers with cool temps,...might be slow enough to not meet demands...

The pH stays around 6.5 to 6.6, and the temps stay in the mid to high 70's, and will touch 80° sometimes, but rarely. I let the soil cook for well over 90 days before eventually potting the plants. I really appreciate you taking the time to help me out. Seriously, I am grateful for your help