Indoor The Kalyx Kid's Perpetual LED Auto

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DIY 90cm x 45cm x 150cm tent
Blackstar 240 UV
Blue Himalaya generation 2.0

I grew out a 10 pack of Blue Himalaya for my first LED grow and only got one female. I ended up pollinating her and scored a few beans. Here's mum and dad under a Haight LED which is to close:

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Here's the babies looking very similar at 4 weeks, same as the above plants at the time of the photo, born on 4/20. I have 4 more BH sprouts planted three weeks later. These are under the Blackstar. 100% LED, baby:

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This cross seems to be pretty stable looking, comically short little plants about 6" in early stretch. Unless I take my chances on some regular beans again, this will give me males to breed with feminized beans.

But last time the one female had pretty impressive buds and was only 10" because I stunted her:

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with tons of branches. I think by not cutting fan leaves, which made sense at the time but now seems so silly, the plants just build their energy and it needs to be at a critical point to get flowering and branching going.

By cutting fan leaves thinking I was exposing the branches to light, I forgot that they nodes get their energy from the fan leaves, and the covered branches get energy from the node even if not directly exposed to light.

Also, I was keeping the LED like 6" from the tops of the plants, which also caused stunting, with nodes too close and excessive vegetation as flowering is delayed.

So far by not taking fan leaves and keeping the LED at least 24" from the tops, I am getting good stretch at near 5 weeks but nothing excessive.

I know once into flowering the don't mind the light so close, so my theory is to let them grow into the light. I don't want to move the light because I don't have a good DIY solution for frequent height changes.

Seedlings stay outside the 24" bubble, and flowering plants can grow into it as long as there is good stretch to 1" between nodes.

In theory, as they grow taller they can handle more light, and I won't have trouble with stunting or having to constantly move the light.

This sounds basic, but I goofed two harvests to learn how to use LEDs, which I believed in but didn't respect in terms of their learning curve.

Let the perpetual begin! I will plant at least two auto beans every three weeks. I still have another chamber that could fit several seedlings should my backup beans not be needed.

I really should do mother/clones in hydro, but I'm scared of messing it up. Soil seems forgiving to me, and autos don't require a strict light-tight enclosure, but I am starting to get tempted by all the good strains out there...
 
Sounds like you're off to a good start man. I'll be checking it out.
 
Blue Himalaya at 3 and 5 Weeks

Hey squidherb, things should get interesting soon, so grab a chair and spark up :)

Update: hard to believe it's only been 6 days. The big girls born on 4/20 are now 35 days old. One's pushing 7", the other 9". Things are getting hairy now, but still stretching I think. They were sub-6" and 6" just six days ago!

The littluns are three weeks old, just a day or two apart but very different in size, as these suckers grow SO SLOWLY the first 2-3 weeks.

In fact, I like the fact that I can see the future of the other seedlings, and as tiny as they are, in three weeks they will look like the class above them, more or less.

I think things are going well, I'm really pleased to see no delay as of yet. Really I just have to get out of the way and let nature do its thing.

I have been battling mites with a couple different organics, but they are the main threat. Just gross, really. I am doing foliar sprayings of nutrients, bug repellant, or water. I think the like it, so I'll keep doing it.


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Finally got some Sweet Skunks and an Auto AK freebie. I should start germing 2-3 more next week, but not sure how many females will remain, and I want to keep a male. I can always shove a few plants in the other chamber, which is quietly growing some monster rosemary and thyme :D

I planted the newer ones in somewhat smaller pots, and I'm not sure how to handle days 14-21ish because I should really transplant like today, but I still don't know the sex of these guys. I might do a pithy replanting into slightly larger containers for a week. I gotta start saving materials and money.

Join me in a week! Share your tips! No major problems so far, some weird rust spots that are only on top, I think some minor damage from the miticide or something, no biggie.
 
hey my friend from someplace else, sure glad to see you here and doing a grow. i subbed for sure my friend.

TOKE OUT
 
Hey oldmedtoker, good to see ya!

I decided to focus here as well, as if I don't pay attention to autos they go ahead and evolve on me!

I'm going to get good at the LED auto thing and then look into photo strains. I gotta grow some of those classic strains and some of the new funk as well.

I'm really considering trying Kush van Stich though, I feel left out not being able to visit Cali!
 
Blue Himalaya at 3 and 6 Weeks

I think I made a mistake, last week was week 2 for the littluns. Lights have been on a 21/3 schedule the whole time.

Not much vertical growth this week for shorty, just 1", so she's 9" now. Tall-y grew about 3 inches and is now ~12".

The little guys barely get to 4" until flowering, which should be any day now. I definitely have one male that showed very early, maybe 17-18 days. He's in my other chamber chilling under the Haight LED.

Shorty is slightly more advanced, and I think might turn into one of those short, squat plants. Nodes are <1", and the light was at least 16" I think until now, so now I've elevated it so it can get dense. Bud development is going faster than anything I can remember, with almost daily changes.

I'm not sure when and how far to bring the light down during flowering, I guess I'll keep it 12"- 16" and see how it goes.

I think the lessons learned about using LEDs is paying off, as well as using a more intense LED (Blackstar 240). This grow is going pretty smoothly, and no bugs as I have been spraying at least twice a week with neem or this natural mite killer I have, sorry but have no idea what's in it :D

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Let's hope the next month or so goes well. I put two Sweet Seeds Sweet Skunks into germ today, I may end up having too many females, but perpetual is the word!
 
Blue Himalaya at 1, 4, and 7 weeks

We are at around 7 weeks, and you can see in the last week they've really started to fill put on the flowers.

The short plant is 9" and I think it will be just one big football (mini football) of bud with some chunky indica buds.

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The other is 14" and I guess is more sativa influenced.

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Both plants are within the 10-15" estimate for this plant. It is very compact, not very wide, if not molested, is growing fast I think.

I hope to harvest at 9-10 weeks, but I may have to pull the kushy one in two weeks because of some time limitations I am working with.

There is one female 3 weeks behind, and hopefully another female that is taking forever to show pistils.

I've isolated one male that's in a plastic bag by the window. I have another male that is very compact and starting to throw flowers.

Will update with littlun pics, but I'm most excited by this trouble-free grow...I will harvest within 10 weeks, by gosh!!!
 
A few more shots of Blue Himalaya at 7 Weeks

I had to tape some paper in front of the flash to get these pics, this camera is so weird. I ended up having to put most of my finger in front of the flash to get detail and not everything drowned out by light. Anyway, that friend is moving on, so I enjoy things like focus and clarity until I can score a decent camera.

Again, the less I do and get out of the way of nature, the happier and healthier the plants are. It's beautiful to me, this life lesson :D

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Things are going to get interesting. I got some good auto genetics lined up. But what makes it all possible is the Blue Himalaya male. Once I get some crosses, I'll start planting lots of seeds every three weeks in order to get 2 prime females and maybe some studs for further seed production.

In the end, as long as I have my LEDs and seeds, I can set up anywhere in the world should my life throw me some curves.

It's pretty cool how life multiplies.
 
In the end, as long as I have my LEDs and seeds, I can set up anywhere in the world should my life throw me some curves.

It's pretty cool how life multiplies.
Love the philosophy.
Keep it growing!
Peace
 
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