OK Chef will keep at it. Have worked hard at keeping water temps down also been doing weekly water changes. Bending and tying has been the norm to try and get some light into the bud sites. They don't seem to mind a little defol, when I take 1 leaf they give me back 4 !@Newbegro Good Morning Nothing wrong with plants They are Happy. Just as time goes on start to defoliate as plant gets bushy. Don't be afraid to clip leaves, pull branches down an tie in place. Clean up lower growth Etc. You have a good root system already. Just maintain and watch your rese Bucket Water temps and ppms ( EC) Keep doing what you are doing. If you run in to anything just ask questions Cheers