Very urgent help needed !!! Bug problem bigtime!!!! Please

[DarthMaul]

Hello guys,

First time this is happening to me... the demonic bugs have chosen to attack my babies.

Please help me identify those disgusting creatures!!!!!

Im thinking whitefly/spidermite caterpillar combo Pics attached...

I should spray with neem oil correct?

THANKS FOR HELP

 

[namvet25]

I don't no exactly what they are buy neem oil should work or any organic bug spray will also work.

 

[DarthMaul]

So you are also puzzled about those creatures? Can it be that they came from the soil? Can it be that they are not harmful and just friendly visitors or are all bugs a danger to my sexy babies?

 

[Waira]

Cyclos- I'm trying to ID that bug; it's not any sort of thrip, soil gnat (too big for both), ditto for White Fly (not white either- LOL),... I don't like the looks of it, but it may not be a bad bug,... regardless, the neem/other safe sprays will smoke them! Unwelcome they are, in any case....Look under the leaves for others, maybe babies,...And those good set of wings means they could be anywhere in the tent, so look all over for them...*** Now, that said, I don't see the type of damage such bugs cause when feeding on a plant (micro-spotting, yellowing, silvery surface); in fact, from the wrinkled, wavy/curled shape the leaves have, it looks a lot like heat/lowRH stress damage, and/or a couple really dry spells with your soil...** let us know what you find under the leaves, about any dry spells, type of lighting and distance,.... :thumbs:

 

[DarthMaul]

I neemed the plant several times and my leafs have become worse! Need help ASAP!



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I forgot to mention i cut off the edges of some leafs because the damage was severe

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One of the plants is stunt as well in one of the pics u see newgroth with black edges... is this one a goner?

 

[Waira]

You sprayed several times? :no: You over did it Cyclos,... I can tell you sprayed quite a bit, as your leaves are extra glossy from it; once, maybe twice a few days later would have been fine,... recall, I didn't think this was bug damage to begin with,.... Too much neem, or improperly diluted will burn the leaves just like that, and cause shape distortion... Did you spray neem as well before you posted this help request? Also, I need answers to the questions posted above,... for now, a clear water rinse is best, but what damage is done can't be fixed.... No, they'll have some ragged looking leaves, but newer growth should be fine,....

 

[Mr Piggy]

Okay, slow down and breathe.

First off, I've never seen those bugs and I'm not convinced they are doing that damage to your plant, I think you are (no offense)

That looks way more like cal/mag dep than bug bites and the tip burn could be from overfeeding n or underfeeding P. I guarantee the leaf tip issue is not bugs and cutting the tips off is a very bad idea. You need to see the burnt tips to monitor the progress of the damage to see if it slows or stops. Cutting an already stressed plant will stress it more and make a new opening for any pathogens that might be present.

As for neem, neem is not a contact killer. It takes time for the buggies to die off. In the mean time flip over your leaves and look for any type of eggs or larva. The more you know about it's breeding patterns the sooner you can figure out if it's a bad bug or not.

Now for environmental control. How did the bugs get in there in the first place? If you don't have all of your air entrance ports sealed up with screen or a furnace filter now's a good time. On the chance the bugs are doing damage, killing them is pointless if more can waltz in. Do you ever take your plants outside?

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Waira is right, rinse that plant with clean water!

 

[DarthMaul]

Waira i checked under the leaves found some small flies and exterminated them
I grow in my laundry room which is probably why bugs enter from the water canal.
I will relocate my grow room this week.
No bug damage seen in the pic? Can they recover? I flushed the plant to get all the excess nuts out.
Did a normal foilar spray as you told me and hope that this will fix my plant.

I have to admit that this bugs tripped me out and I sprayed 0.3L of neem (1/3 teespoon with tiny bit of dish soap) 2-3 times a day.
I did not think neem can cause damage I thought the plant can handle it.

I also gave the plant a molasses for mag/cal 4 days ago. 1 tbs per galon as instructed.
I think you are right the cutting of leafs caused my plant to be ultra stressed... I panic to easily which probably killed my babies now.
I hope the flush helps and will update you in a few days

The flushing idea was from someone who helped me on the first grow. He said its good to flush once in every 1-2 months. He also told me to quit cutting leafs my plant doesnt like it at all...

BTW found the bug hidding on one of the lower leafs and killed him!!!
Also killed 3-4 flies who were on the leafs.

Lights: 3x CFL 2x 120 W 6500K 1x 2700K i upped them to 7 inches atm.

Light cycle is 24/0 and 22/2 23/1 when spraying neem oil