11 weeks in but not flower

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Problem: I picked up 2 clones from the local shop. One Blue Dream and one "Green Crack". I am on my 9th week and I think (probably) I did something completely wrong.


Medium/grow method: Coco-Hempy style. 2.5g bucket, coco/perilite mix with perilite bed on bottom of bucket.

Feed and supplements used: In a one gallon jug I use General Hydroponics Flora Grow, Bloom, Micro Combo to specifications they recommend. Although this part i might have repeated a couple of weeks in the beginning because i thought my plants were specially smalls. I water every 3 days or if they look like their leaves are drooping. I use a to waste system.

water source: I use tap water with the Nutrients and use a PH pen to make sure its at 6.2

Strain/age: I have one "blue dream" and one "green crack" . 85 days growing.

light used: I have 6, 22w (replaces 100w bulbs ,16K lumens)and two ultraviolet bulbs to get the light spectrum as light set up. Have a fan and filter to keep it cool. I was running 18/6 light schedule but changed it to 12/12 out of a little desperation. Keep them 4 inches from the plants.

Climate: Most of the time temp is between 77 to 86 but this week has been hitting 90 but the plants don't seem to mind.

Additional info: in the beginning (week 3) i started clipping leaves from the bottom of the branches because of a forum post i had read. Which might have been bad advice. I grow in a 2x2x4 tent. I stopped cutting anything about 2 weeks and the last pictures you will see is them full instead of the not so full pictures. Wondering if I am just getting impatient or should start a new with out being Edgar Scissorhands
 

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Are there any lite leaks by chance?
 
@SevenOneFour I'm not sure of your question? Is it lack of growth over nine weeks? From some of the pics, you did some serious defoliation up front, that probaby slowed grow that some.

Lack of flowering? These are photo strains (clones) you said you were running 18/6, and have flipped to 12/12, when did you do that? Flipping the lights on a photo strain is the signal to start flower production.

I believe your question is that why haven't the flowered?
If that's the case, it is because they are not automatic strains, they are photo period strains, and flowering is not set by age from seed, as autos are but length of daylight. In nature, a photo will vegetate spring thru late summer, and as the daylight hrs fade in august, and begin dipping below 13 hrs the plant is triggered into reproduction mode.
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This is my photo period girl in the back, she's going on 5 months old, I don't expect to see flowering start for another month and a half. And I won't see harvest till likely mid October
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This is one of two automatics, about 15 days old, pic taken same as the other, but she should start flowering in the next couple weeks, and be done mid Sept.

If I've missed the mark on the question, please let me know.

from the fuller pictures they look healthy, I'd keep them on a 12/12 schedule, and wait, depending on genetics, you've got some time to wait for flowering to finish, indica can be done flowering in a couple months, sativa tend to run long on flower times, and can push or exceed 90 days in flower.
 
No there


There are not. Its a pretty well made tent. I checked on the light too. I think the other guy figured out my noobness. Thank you for replying though.

Don't sweat it! We all started @ the beginning! I've done the photos for yrs, am new to the auto strains, it's reminiscent of my noobness! Your ladies look healthy, so soldier on! And pat yourself on the back for the health of the ladies, keep that up and you'll be rewarded.
 
@SevenOneFour I'm not sure of your question? Is it lack of growth over nine weeks? From some of the pics, you did some serious defoliation up front, that probaby slowed grow that some.

Lack of flowering? These are photo strains (clones) you said you were running 18/6, and have flipped to 12/12, when did you do that? Flipping the lights on a photo strain is the signal to start flower production.

I believe your question is that why haven't the flowered?
If that's the case, it is because they are not automatic strains, they are photo period strains, and flowering is not set by age from seed, as autos are but length of daylight. In nature, a photo will vegetate spring thru late summer, and as the daylight hrs fade in august, and begin dipping below 13 hrs the plant is triggered into reproduction mode.View attachment 776647
This is my photo period girl in the back, she's going on 5 months old, I don't expect to see flowering start for another month and a half. And I won't see harvest till likely mid OctoberView attachment 776648

This is one of two automatics, about 15 days old, pic taken same as the other, but she should start flowering in the next couple weeks, and be done mid Sept.

If I've missed the mark on the question, please let me know.

from the fuller pictures they look healthy, I'd keep them on a 12/12 schedule, and wait, depending on genetics, you've got some time to wait for flowering to finish, indica can be done flowering in a couple months, sativa tend to run long on flower times, and can push or exceed 90 days in flower.


Arthur I think you hit it right on the head. When i was buying the plants this random guy walked by and started talking how they were Autoflowering plants and i guess it solidified that in my head. Didn't even think to think it wasnt. Yes the questions was regarding my lack of buds (still thinking it was autoflowering). Yesterday i switched the light schedule from 18/6 to 12/12. I was planning on using SCROG method but at this point i think i will just let them grow to their own liking or should i be trimming leaves any specific places???

By the way, Thank you very much for responding!!!
 
Arthur I think you hit it right on the head. When i was buying the plants this random guy walked by and started talking how they were Autoflowering plants and i guess it solidified that in my head. Didn't even think to think it wasnt. Yes the questions was regarding my lack of buds (still thinking it was autoflowering). Yesterday i switched the light schedule from 18/6 to 12/12. I was planning on using SCROG method but at this point i think i will just let them grow to their own liking or should i be trimming leaves any specific places???

By the way, Thank you very much for responding!!!

If she was living in my tent, I'd start thinkin scrog, she could well double her size by the end of flower, so I'd want her spread out as much as possible to help with light penetration, and keeping her at a manageable height. If not you'll end up with a few nice colas, and alot of airy nurfle nugs below.
 
714 -- :yeahthat: if you got clones, they aren't auto's... they can be cloned, but it's pointless because the "cell-clock" inside them tell they they are some many weeks old, and sexing happens according to the usual schedule! So, you have photo's that have been veg'ing,.. from the looks, the lights aren't cutting it,.. are they horticultural types, with the right PAR needed by the plants? If not, that's one reason why,... the UV is pointless right now, no buds right? Are they UVB? .... no more trimming! That is setting them back even further,... What was the goal you were seeking by trimming, BTW? Shaping for top biased growth, so called "lollipopping"? Densely foliated plants can benefit from some trimming to open up the canopy and let light get down further to lower buds sites,...
 
714 -- :yeahthat: if you got clones, they aren't auto's... they can be cloned, but it's pointless because the "cell-clock" inside them tell they they are some many weeks old, and sexing happens according to the usual schedule! So, you have photo's that have been veg'ing,.. from the looks, the lights aren't cutting it,.. are they horticultural types, with the right PAR needed by the plants? If not, that's one reason why,... the UV is pointless right now, no buds right? Are they UVB? .... no more trimming! That is setting them back even further,... What was the goal you were seeking by trimming, BTW? Shaping for top biased growth, so called "lollipopping"? Densely foliated plants can benefit from some trimming to open up the canopy and let light get down further to lower buds sites,...

Waira - Ya, I have come to that realization :joy: So, that is a huge step in getting me into the right road. Ya i understand the "cell clock" now. I guess there's so much info its easy to get lost in it. They are not labeled as "Horticultural" types. just regular GE ones I read from other forums that would be sufficient for my tent and budget. I switched my light time to 12/12 so i could replace the UV bulbs with CFLs until I see buds. My goal of trimming was to hopefully use the SCRoG method. Kind of like lollipoping but getting it ready for SCRoG. I do admit i might have gone a little Edgar Scissors-hands with her. Hope that answers your questions :) BTW thanks for taking the time to reply!
 
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