New Grower All seeds are not created equal

[SHRED]

These are White Widow autoflowers. All under the same conditions. All about 18 days old.
Notice the little one. It took over a day longer to pop out of the soil than the other ones and was smaller from the start.
Quite the difference eh?

 

[Grey Bear]

That is because cannabis is a prolific seed producer.
This is a survival trait. When dealing with well developed strains, you won't see it as much, but it could easily be 1%-5% of surviving seeds that are not homogeneous. The remainder will be a mixture of performers, some more vigorous in those conditions, others less so. In the natural setting, this allows for survival of the gene pool if conditions change in the environment the seeds find themselves germinating in.
In controlled conditions, seed breeders will often select out the most vigorous plants to work with. What is often forgotten, is that those plants are outliers, and may produce a greater percentage of non-homogeneous plants.
Weaklings will never thrive, so if you plan any breeding, cull it.
The degree to which that plant is stunted, I would get rid of it for room, if that is the space you are growing in.

 

[SHRED]

That is because cannabis is a prolific seed producer.
This is a survival trait. When dealing with well developed strains, you won't see it as much, but it could easily be 1%-5% of surviving seeds that are not homogeneous. The remainder will be a mixture of performers, some more vigorous in those conditions, others less so. In the natural setting, this allows for survival of the gene pool if conditions change in the environment the seeds find themselves germinating in.
In controlled conditions, seed breeders will often select out the most vigorous plants to work with. What is often forgotten, is that those plants are outliers, and may produce a greater percentage of non-homogeneous plants.
Weaklings will never thrive, so if you plan any breeding, cull it.
The degree to which that plant is stunted, I would get rid of it for room, if that is the space you are growing in.

Genetics. This seed was way slow. It's strange but it's like a shrunken old plant already budding fast.
I'm gonna get it out of the tent today. I don't need the container taking up space and adding humidity to the tent.

 

[Hal 8999]

I like to grow the weaker ones out for the stronger smoke. While they will not keep up on yield, they get considerable more potent. If you need the space, kill the weakling.

 

[KapScot]

Do remember the simple laws of genetics - in any cross there will be a mixture of genetics present, while breeders back cross the ruderalis (autoflowering) genetics to try and fix autoflowering - the other parents are often not as 'fixed' as we might assume.

Often these variants are known as phenotypes. So say for every 4/8/16 (depending on the seeds generation often expressed as F1/F2/F3 etc) seeds you sprout there may be one or more that expresses a different trait to it's intended crossed parents.

So say in an Indica Dominant Strain that at some point has some Sativa genetics crossed it's not surprising to find a bean that produces a plant which looks totally different, in that it shows itself as being Sativa Dominant, or indeed throws some strange combination of genetics totally unexpected << these are often the mutants that breeders look out for not to eliminate them but to see what they are (could be the start of a new super strain).

Like Hal above I love nurturing some of my little mutants and while yields may be lower they can be surprisingly satisfying (esp the little Sativa ones).

So don't give up on them little uns just cause they slower than the rest...

If you have the room, let them grow and see what happens - tho you might need to give her a leg up towards the lights as the others grow

 

[aperson]

Bro from 3 Dinafem Moby Dick XXL I had 1 XXL, one XL and one S...

 

[pop22]

however, if this is a feminised strain, all genetics are identical in a batch of seed. Pathogens in soil are the usual culprit in these cases IMO. All it would take would be for the soil to be a bit too wet in that one pot, or the seedling damaged during planting, too long a soak, etc. most stunting is caused very early in life and could be any number of causes, but in fem seed, genetics are not a likely caused. This plant looks like it may have root rot, look at how droopy it is compared to the other.

That is because cannabis is a prolific seed producer.
This is a survival trait. When dealing with well developed strains, you won't see it as much, but it could easily be 1%-5% of surviving seeds that are not homogeneous. The remainder will be a mixture of performers, some more vigorous in those conditions, others less so. In the natural setting, this allows for survival of the gene pool if conditions change in the environment the seeds find themselves germinating in.
In controlled conditions, seed breeders will often select out the most vigorous plants to work with. What is often forgotten, is that those plants are outliers, and may produce a greater percentage of non-homogeneous plants.
Weaklings will never thrive, so if you plan any breeding, cull it.
The degree to which that plant is stunted, I would get rid of it for room, if that is the space you are growing in.

 

[SHRED]

Here's the tent now at 36 days old.

 

[Grey Bear]

however, if this is a feminised strain, all genetics are identical in a batch of seed. Pathogens in soil are the usual culprit in these cases IMO. All it would take would be for the soil to be a bit too wet in that one pot, or the seedling damaged during planting, too long a soak, etc. most stunting is caused very early in life and could be any number of causes, but in fem seed, genetics are not a likely caused. This plant looks like it may have root rot, look at how droopy it is compared to the other.

I think you may be confusing the genetics of cloning with feminizing.
A clone will have identical genetics as the mother plant, because it is essentially the same plant.
However, feminized seeds have the full genetic potential of the mother, latent genes as well as dominant genes.
You have reduced by half the potential variation, seeing that there is no male involved, but the variety of genes that make up the female can be expressed with each batch of seeds.

The cannabis seed world was developed in a black market that inherently reduces quantity to maximize profits. I think once the market becomes fully legal, either the price per seed will fall or the amount of seeds per package will rise, as with most other crops, ornamental or food.
And just as in most other agricultural fields, there will be stock for commercial production and stock for the hobbyist with very different needs being met by the companies producing the seed.

 

[pop22]

your right, I forgot that part. And the pricing on seed can't come down any too soon......I'm seeing $30 + seed prices. and the hording of clones/genetics needs to end also.
The lack of incentive extends to governments also. Look at New York's "medical" laws. No growing, no smoking, no plant matter allowed.....So the few select patients get to choose any concentrate the Governor's 5 buddies ( the only ones allowed to sell to us.. ) decide to make. Its already been estimated that the average monthly cost will be $600 to $800 a month per patient!
Hell, I can't afford A $90 ANTIBIOTIC! Who's going to be able to buy this?

What state wants 30% of $50 when they are getting 30% of $200-$300? Seems like an awful lot of incentive to keep prices high!
No, affordability will take worldwide legalization and even then I'm doubtful. And that's why I tell everyone, to fight not only for legalization, but for the right to grow also. Without the right to grow, we lose control of our medicine completely.

I think you may be confusing the genetics of cloning with feminizing.
A clone will have identical genetics as the mother plant, because it is essentially the same plant.
However, feminized seeds have the full genetic potential of the mother, latent genes as well as dominant genes.
You have reduced by half the potential variation, seeing that there is no male involved, but the variety of genes that make up the female can be expressed with each batch of seeds.

The cannabis seed world was developed in a black market that inherently reduces quantity to maximize profits. I think once the market becomes fully legal, either the price per seed will fall or the amount of seeds per package will rise, as with most other crops, ornamental or food.
And just as in most other agricultural fields, there will be stock for commercial production and stock for the hobbyist with very different needs being met by the companies producing the seed.