Lighting Costs

[Dabber]

Ya, ok when you said mate wasnt sure. If I could build it I would but @BigSm0 has an excellent light and is a fair priced light as far as other finished light that are sold. Anyone buying anything of weight going over a ocean is going to make shipping much to expensive to be worth it anyway. Not sure, but if you can build it yourself why you buy from someone else? I'm not hating on you just sayin'. I do anything and everything I can myself, if I had that skill I would build my own for sure. But when you say his prices are crazy (which they are not) whether was your intention or not you're misinforming others. BigSm0 has excellent CS and is always here ready to help whether you have or will buy his autocob. I think he has earned a little more respect than that. Good luck with your lighting bud.

well said Mcdee.

 

[Mikis]

Ya, ok when you said mate wasnt sure. If I could build it I would but @BigSm0 has an excellent light and is a fair priced light as far as other finished light that are sold. Anyone buying anything of weight going over a ocean is going to make shipping much to expensive to be worth it anyway. Not sure, but if you can build it yourself why you buy from someone else? I'm not hating on you just sayin'. I do anything and everything I can myself, if I had that skill I would build my own for sure. But when you say his prices are crazy (which they are not) whether was your intention or not you're misinforming others. BigSm0 has excellent CS and is always here ready to help whether you have or will buy his autocob. I think he has earned a little more respect than that. Good luck with your lighting bud.

I was merely asking out of queriosity, then gave an opinion on the price of what you would be getting. That is all.
Not trying to sway anybody's opinion and not discrediting the manufacturer's skill or the products build quality.

Perhaps he might be able to secure a better deal on the parts by buying in bulk and perhaps i could have saved money by buying multiple units from him instead of ordering and building them myself!? Wouldn't have found out until i asked!!

With regards to the costs being crazy/not being crazy, value is perceptive. Somthing costing 1000 bucks may seem cheap to one man, but expensive to another....

 

[hairyman]

Just to throw a swerve ball are driverless 50watt cobs less efficient than 50watt cobs with a driver

 

[McDee]

I was merely asking out of queriosity, then gave an opinion on the price of what you would be getting. That is all.
Not trying to sway anybody's opinion and not discrediting the manufacturer's skill or the products build quality.

Perhaps he might be able to secure a better deal on the parts by buying in bulk and perhaps i could have saved money by buying multiple units from him instead of ordering and building them myself!? Wouldn't have found out until i asked!!

With regards to the costs being crazy/not being crazy, value is perceptive. Somthing costing 1000 bucks may seem cheap to one man, but expensive to another....

Nothing wrong with asking, and I agree value is in the eye of the beholder. But his prices are in line with others for sale, actually autocobs are probably a better value so in this case value has been determined by the market. And as to it just being a cob, heatsink, and transformer it's also his time and effort. I dont want to come at you and opinions are all around Im just not a fan of how you came off bud, that's all. If you can make them at the same quality at a better price please do. We all love cannabis here so let's remember that.

 

[MasonJarOG]

Cost is the "only" value that one places on a product or solution - Impulse Buyer
Cost is relative to the "perceived" value that one places on product or solution - Bargain Shopper
Cost is relative to the "actual" value that one receives from the quality of the product or solution - Value Shopper

Pretty much sums it all up....

 

[Banjacked]

Just to throw a swerve ball are driverless 50watt cobs less efficient than 50watt cobs with a driver

It's for another thread but I would go "Yes" straight away due to parts quality and extra heat generated, never mind cooling.

A "top quality" cob and driver, where the cob itself uses 50W and is not a case of "50W = Cob PLUS losses from driver", should be more efficient straight off the bat, never mind the differences between the actual cob itself as cheap is not always cheerful.

 

[Banjacked]

Nothing wrong with asking, and I agree value is in the eye of the beholder. But his prices are in line with others for sale, actually autocobs are probably a better value so in this case value has been determined by the market. And as to it just being a cob, heatsink, and transformer it's also his time and effort. I dont want to come at you and opinions are all around Im just not a fan of how you came off bud, that's all. If you can make them at the same quality at a better price please do. We all love cannabis here so let's remember that.

One of the biggest differences in my eyes is THAT heatsink, it doesn't take a lot of effort to realise that heatsink is designed to take maximum advantage of convection currents and will be more efficient than the traditional "hedgehog/porcupine" style which, when passive, relies on the convection currents "pulling" the air round the side of the heatsink first and that means losses due to vortices all over the place.

That, alone, makes a huge difference.

 

[McDee]

One of the biggest differences in my eyes is THAT heatsink, it doesn't take a lot of effort to realise that heatsink is designed to take maximum advantage of convection currents and will be more efficient than the traditional "hedgehog/porcupine" style which, when passive, relies on the convection currents "pulling" the air round the side of the heatsink first and that means losses due to vortices all over the place.

That, alone, makes a huge difference.

I just wish I could stop smacking my head off of them lol.

 

[Mikis]

Just to throw a swerve ball are driverless 50watt cobs less efficient than 50watt cobs with a driver

One of the biggest differences in my eyes is THAT heatsink, it doesn't take a lot of effort to realise that heatsink is designed to take maximum advantage of convection currents and will be more efficient than the traditional "hedgehog/porcupine" style which, when passive, relies on the convection currents "pulling" the air round the side of the heatsink first and that means losses due to vortices all over the place.

That, alone, makes a huge difference.

All heatsinks work the same, conduction THEN convection, whether they be passive or not!
The difference in how efficient they are is not down to the "style" of the heatsink but the total surface area.
Air cooled engines are the best example of this ✌

 

[Mikis]

Why is everyone getting their panties in a twist over one mans opinion? Even @BigSm0 basically just said if the cost dont suit then buy something else lol! I really dont see the need for people to jump in basically saying my opinion is wrong and uncalled for, just for saying that i find something too expensive!
But who cares realy, ive got some sour dubb to smoke and a cup of coffee to drink so life is good ✌