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Lol, the 4 day old looks good. She won't disappoint. #1 looks great.
Mephisto Genetics Deep Blue C meets Vipar 450Watt LED
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Here we go again 
DBC#1 has found her full throttle button. She is exploding in new growth almost every minute by now. She is one fat little girl. Very short, very bushy, I like that, as long as we are not talking real life girls. I'm trying to open her up every other day by rearranging those big fat leaves simply by putting them away and letting the lower branches reach for the light. It's not easy because of her structure, but it's working. She almost acts like scrog'ed and I haven't broken any stems so far. She is levelled out within a few cm's by now. As with my last update, I forgot pictures before getting my hands on her. It's hard to see a lady without touching. I remembered half way through so I do have pictures of before/after of half the plant.
Day 28, DBC#1 before:
Day 28, DBC#1 after:
DBC#1 had her first full watering with a little runoff at day 25 to make sure all the soil was saturated. Still in the low end on nutrition. 1,5ml/L Biobizz Grow. That's it. She has reached 22cm. Indeed a little fatty.
DBC#2 is moving along nice and easy. Not much to tell or show so I'll keep this short. Gave her a little Biobizz Grow ½ml/L at day 5 and will up this to 1ml/L with her next feed.
Day 9, DBC#2:
Take care. It's a jungle out there.
/MrK
DBC#1 has found her full throttle button. She is exploding in new growth almost every minute by now. She is one fat little girl. Very short, very bushy, I like that, as long as we are not talking real life girls. I'm trying to open her up every other day by rearranging those big fat leaves simply by putting them away and letting the lower branches reach for the light. It's not easy because of her structure, but it's working. She almost acts like scrog'ed and I haven't broken any stems so far. She is levelled out within a few cm's by now. As with my last update, I forgot pictures before getting my hands on her. It's hard to see a lady without touching. I remembered half way through so I do have pictures of before/after of half the plant.
Day 28, DBC#1 before:
Day 28, DBC#1 after:
DBC#1 had her first full watering with a little runoff at day 25 to make sure all the soil was saturated. Still in the low end on nutrition. 1,5ml/L Biobizz Grow. That's it. She has reached 22cm. Indeed a little fatty.
DBC#2 is moving along nice and easy. Not much to tell or show so I'll keep this short. Gave her a little Biobizz Grow ½ml/L at day 5 and will up this to 1ml/L with her next feed.
Day 9, DBC#2:
Take care. It's a jungle out there.
/MrK
Good morning, good evening or even good night AFN. It all depends on your location. Let's have a little update on this beautiful Sunday. Things are running smoothly although I'm a bit tested. I'm doing a lot of guessing with the DBC#1. She is in the "I can't figure out how hot the soil is" pot. It seems like she could have gone this far with no adding of nutrition to the soil. I started out slowly at day 16 by giving her 1ml/l Biobiz grow with every watering. She did well. 10 days later I gave her 1,5ml/L and 4-5 days later she asked me kindly to stop. I was having slight nute burns. Really? Yep, a 30 days old plant couldn't take it. This soil must be hotter than I thought. She was started directly in this soil and had no difficulties at seedling stage at all. This girl must either be extremely nute sensitive or the soil is HOT. I guess I will find out as time goes by. Stepped back a little with a tapwater feed followed by a 0,5ml/L feed and now I'm back at 1ml/L. She has grown quite a bit since then and is doing great. I will try with 1,5ml/L feed next watering which will be tomorrow along with some Biobizz Bloom. She has been a real pleasure to grow until now and I'm happy to see her thrive. She has reached 35cm.
Day 33, DBC#1:
DBC#2 is doing fine as well. Today is day 14 in her short life. At day 14 she has the size that DBC#1 had after 20. Maybe even a little bigger. I guess that answers Mitch' curiosity of the difference at starting at 12/12 for the first 15 days to 20/4. There is quite a difference. She is still only getting 1ml/L Biobizz grow. It's hard for me to feed her more even though I know I should. That burn scared me. Damn head and all that thinking
I will never use 2 different soils again with the same strain. It messes my brain up completely, but I think I will mix the lightmix with the hot soil next round. I really like the structure of the hot soil. Draining really really fast and seems like it has some great stuff in it. It did very well with some photoperiods apart from going very acidic at a time. That's why it had a good amount of gardening lime added. Don't know if I gave the lightmix too much. It had the same amount added. I was quite stoned when mixing the soils and didn't think very well obviously
. Time will tell. So far no problems at all.
Day 14, DBC#2:
That's it for now
Day 33, DBC#1:
DBC#2 is doing fine as well. Today is day 14 in her short life. At day 14 she has the size that DBC#1 had after 20. Maybe even a little bigger. I guess that answers Mitch' curiosity of the difference at starting at 12/12 for the first 15 days to 20/4. There is quite a difference. She is still only getting 1ml/L Biobizz grow. It's hard for me to feed her more even though I know I should. That burn scared me. Damn head and all that thinking
I will never use 2 different soils again with the same strain. It messes my brain up completely, but I think I will mix the lightmix with the hot soil next round. I really like the structure of the hot soil. Draining really really fast and seems like it has some great stuff in it. It did very well with some photoperiods apart from going very acidic at a time. That's why it had a good amount of gardening lime added. Don't know if I gave the lightmix too much. It had the same amount added. I was quite stoned when mixing the soils and didn't think very well obviously
. Time will tell. So far no problems at all.Day 14, DBC#2:
That's it for now
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Nice work in here dude!
She already looks stocky at d14, set for some great growth I would say
Thanks Mitch, my pleasure
Yeah, those little girls sure builds some stalks fast. Amazing to watch.
Hell yes, mixing things up confuses the hell out of me.
Same containers, same soils, same nute.... I can relax and vape a bowl.
I'm done with that. Too much trouble figuring stuff out. More about this later
Thanks for the comparison of light cycles. Seems like more light is better for Autos.
Faster growth, higher yield.
Thanks for the slap
I'm still new here and I haven't really figured out the rep. slap system. Not to be rude, but I haven't given any myself at this point. Could someone please explain to me when, why and how much and for what. That was some questions
Been here since February, but feeling like a noob (I am). One thing I know is I like this place. People are really nice. No bitching around and if someone crosses the line, things get sorted with no drama. Fantastic. Good job from the staff and the users.No doubt about that DBC#2 is faster. More light, more growth and faster. One thing I have been thinking about. I'm running 20/4 lightcycle. However, it seems like it's maybe a little too much. At about 2 hours before light shuts of, DBC#1 goes to sleep. She collapses completely like a serious over watered plant. How is the Deep Blue C acting in a 24/0 cycle? And how is she acting in 18/6. Man I wish had plenty of space for testing. It's waste of power in my opinion as I don't think she is doing much the last 2 hours, but if she acts the same under, lets say 18/6 and sleeps 2 hours before lights out, then it's a bad idea to cut some light. Too much thinking. Smoking time.
I'll be back later with a little update on DBC#1. She is in trouble
Back with the update. DBC#1 is telling me she is not happy and gives me some headache. 5 or 6 days ago i noticed some small rusty spots. No big deal. However they got bigger. Stems started to go purple. No big deal. Could be genetic and the fact that it gets cold during lights out, 18-20°C. Lets see what happens before doing crazy stuff. Stick to the plan. Now the stalk is turning purple. Leaves are turning purple/deep blue at the edges and getting light green at the top and leaves bleaching. It's time to act. Here is what I've done so far:
As mentioned, it started out with some color change going from green to purple with some rust spots. She has been green all over until 6 days ago. When looking at the thread from Mephisto about the making of DBC round 2, none of their stems are purple. It tells me this is a deficiency combined with the other symptoms. Easy enough, I've got this figured out. She just needs some magnesium. Foliar fed with epsom salts for 2 days. Things got worse. Think again.
Deficiency looks like either a magnesium or calcium deficiency. The soil was added a a good amount of gardening lime and epsom salts at the beginning. It can't be. The PH must be causing a lockout. Wrong again. 6.3 should be ok.
What to do. Think again. Hey, the soil is prefed. I have a new idea. The nutrition in the soil could be added in a nonorganic form. Did some digging and found that to be true. Could it be salt buildup? No idea. Lets have a flush. Flushed yesterday and fed 2/2ml Biobizz grow and bloom.
Today she is looking better and worse. What's that supposed to mean? Better in the way of her overall look. Leaves look happier and reaching for the light again. Much more than before. Worse because she is a little more light green. Lower leaves are dark green. That excludes a N deficiency. The small rust spots haven't got worse or hasn't spred but some of the bleaching (I need some words here) has gotten worse.
The fact that everything looks ok to me from trying to figure it out. I think it's the soil playing tricks at me. I needed to start the bloom feeding a little before, but the first nuteburns held me back. The action of the plant after the flush getting a little more light green confirms it's a deficiency in some sort. The fact that the soil got flushed of most nutrients and the organic nutrition fed afterwards takes some days to kick in, I think I got this back on track. She is hungry for PK. At least I hope so. If anyone has anything please chime in. It's a little early to have those kind of trouble and not try to do anything about it.
Here we go. DBC#1, who will from now on be a happy little girl again and behave herself:
Day 36:
This crazy color shows how much that is affected
The holes in the lower leaves are man made
The camera is a bit of in the colors. Cell phone quality
As mentioned, it started out with some color change going from green to purple with some rust spots. She has been green all over until 6 days ago. When looking at the thread from Mephisto about the making of DBC round 2, none of their stems are purple. It tells me this is a deficiency combined with the other symptoms. Easy enough, I've got this figured out. She just needs some magnesium. Foliar fed with epsom salts for 2 days. Things got worse. Think again.
Deficiency looks like either a magnesium or calcium deficiency. The soil was added a a good amount of gardening lime and epsom salts at the beginning. It can't be. The PH must be causing a lockout. Wrong again. 6.3 should be ok.
What to do. Think again. Hey, the soil is prefed. I have a new idea. The nutrition in the soil could be added in a nonorganic form. Did some digging and found that to be true. Could it be salt buildup? No idea. Lets have a flush. Flushed yesterday and fed 2/2ml Biobizz grow and bloom.
Today she is looking better and worse. What's that supposed to mean? Better in the way of her overall look. Leaves look happier and reaching for the light again. Much more than before. Worse because she is a little more light green. Lower leaves are dark green. That excludes a N deficiency. The small rust spots haven't got worse or hasn't spred but some of the bleaching (I need some words here) has gotten worse.
The fact that everything looks ok to me from trying to figure it out. I think it's the soil playing tricks at me. I needed to start the bloom feeding a little before, but the first nuteburns held me back. The action of the plant after the flush getting a little more light green confirms it's a deficiency in some sort. The fact that the soil got flushed of most nutrients and the organic nutrition fed afterwards takes some days to kick in, I think I got this back on track. She is hungry for PK. At least I hope so. If anyone has anything please chime in. It's a little early to have those kind of trouble and not try to do anything about it.
Here we go. DBC#1, who will from now on be a happy little girl again and behave herself
:Day 36:
This crazy color shows how much that is affected
The holes in the lower leaves are man made
The camera is a bit of in the colors. Cell phone quality
Seems like I like to update. Here comes another one
I think my issues has been addressed and solved. Went to have a look at her right before the light went out. She was still standing and just looked a little dizzy. Completely different since 2 days ago.
I will attach two pictures. One taken two days ago 2 hours BEFORE lights out and a recent taken 2 minutes before lights out. I think she fell over because of lack of energy. It makes sense. I see progress. Hope this is solved. Sometimes you would like a fast forward button attached to life. Sometimes the opposite. I will keep her at 2/2ml grow and bloom and do 2 more foliar feeds of Epsom salt and see what happens during the next days. I'm hopeful things will turn out right.
Happy days
She is back (crossed fingers)
I think my issues has been addressed and solved. Went to have a look at her right before the light went out. She was still standing and just looked a little dizzy. Completely different since 2 days ago.
I will attach two pictures. One taken two days ago 2 hours BEFORE lights out and a recent taken 2 minutes before lights out. I think she fell over because of lack of energy. It makes sense. I see progress. Hope this is solved. Sometimes you would like a fast forward button attached to life. Sometimes the opposite. I will keep her at 2/2ml grow and bloom and do 2 more foliar feeds of Epsom salt and see what happens during the next days. I'm hopeful things will turn out right.
Happy days
She is back (crossed fingers)
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LOL, nobody has figured it out.
And it gets randomly reset occasionally.
It would be great if Rep was a sign of who is the most experienced grower or the most helpful,
but it is more about who posts the best photos, more is better.
There are some odd incentive structures that distort the value of rep.
Take it with a heaping spoonful of salt. And don't take it too seriously.
Some of the smartest growers here have low rep.
Purple stems, I think it is good, light is penetrating to down to your stems and they are
increasing red pigments (the green & red together look purplish)
I got purple stalks near the soil, AFTER I started using side lighting.
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I guess it's about time for another update. A happy one indeed. DBC#1 is absolutely back and performing. I kinda lost patience with her. She was clearly in the right direction, but I felt for helping her on her way. Recently a growshop opened just 5 minutes from here. My idea was to get some Biobizz Acti Vera and maybe some AlgaMic to help her out. Long story short. They haven't had the best start as they've had burglary the day before and got the shop almost emptied. I got home with the Algamic and a CalMag xtra from AN. Unfortunately they were out of organic calmag, but since I'm growing with LED and I have had these kind of trouble before and I wasn't getting the results I hoped for with Epsom Salts I gave it a try. I'm not even sure it was a magnesium deficiency, but this stuff with the AlgaMic really worked out well. I added 2ml/L calmag and 2ml/L AlgaMic with her feed of grow and bloom for the next 2 days. I have from today, upped her daily feed to 3ml/L Grow, 3ml/L AlgaMic and 3ml/L Bloom.
So here we are at day 41 with the DBC#1 back in business. She is thirsty. She goes from fully saturated to a desert in 36 hours so I have to keep up with her. She has reached 44 cm's and thats about it. She will not be much taller. She is flowering nicely again without brown ends of the pistols. If she continues like this I guess I will have a nice yield from her. Lets see her.
DBC#1 day 41:
DBC#2 will be updated as soon as I have had a little weeeeeeeeeeeeed
So here we are at day 41 with the DBC#1 back in business. She is thirsty. She goes from fully saturated to a desert in 36 hours so I have to keep up with her. She has reached 44 cm's and thats about it. She will not be much taller. She is flowering nicely again without brown ends of the pistols. If she continues like this I guess I will have a nice yield from her. Lets see her.
DBC#1 day 41:
DBC#2 will be updated as soon as I have had a little weeeeeeeeeeeeed
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