New Grower Disappointing harvest

[Eekman]

Very legitimate argument.

One thing to consider, is that Auto's will carry a higher CBD/THC ratio. This will take from the effect of THC.

But I bet your back pain is gone.

I have gotten just as high of a sativa dominant auto, as I have a photo strain.

Don't get me wrong, I love photos, cuz I can get more out of them, but it's a personaly thing.

My two cents

Peace

Eek

 

[wwwillie]

Been thinking about this one for a bit....
I am sure that your findings regarding potency are accurate for you. Although I must say it's a fairly high standard for comparison that you are using. Cost would be a factor for me. I would (and will when we get some dispensarys around here) probably treat myself to some strains but I think I can grow to suit my needs just fine. And that's the major reason for me I think, auto or photo, I can focus on growing what works well for me as a medicine. There are some strains that I think will be right for me that are autos, Dragons come to mind immediately. Also the growing is therapy as well. I will be growing both for a long time I hope and I hope you find a good potent strain for yourself that puts you away in the way you like the best!!

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Been thinking about this one for a bit....
I am sure that your findings regarding potency are accurate for you. Although I must say it's a fairly high standard for comparison that you are using. Cost would be a factor for me. I would (and will when we get some dispensarys around here) probably treat myself to some strains but I think I can grow to suit my needs just fine. And that's the major reason for me I think, auto or photo, I can focus on growing what works well for me as a medicine. There are some strains that I think will be right for me that are autos, Dragons come to mind immediately. Also the growing is therapy as well. I will be growing both for a long time I hope and I hope you find a good potent strain for yourself that puts you away in the way you like the best!!

 

[Surfer Joe]

Thanks. I don't plan to stop trying, but it's frustrating to spend so much time for an average result.

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Thanks. I don't plan to stop trying, but it's frustrating to spend so much time for an average result.

 

[pop22]

I don't know if my experience is meaningful, but I don't think that the autos I grew are anywhere near as potent as the smoke I buy in Amsterdam.

My plants seemed to grow fine. One northern lights auto in a 20L bubble bucket grew a huge root ball and very lush leaf cover and was harvested after 10 weeks flowering and gave 225grams of dried bud and one soil white widow auto in a 6.5L pot gave a nice 35 grams of dried bud.
I dried them slowly and they have been curing for a bit over a week now, but the stone is mild and not very satisfying.

I grew two other autos in soil last fall and they were even worse, but that was my first time and I made a lot of mistakes throughout the whole grow.

It may be due to mistakes in feeding or other growing conditions or harvesting techniques, but none of the autos that I have grown are even close to the stone I get from store bought pot.

I am going to try a photoperiod grow next to see if regular seeds are stronger or if I am just a crap gardener.
I was hoping to be able to grow my own and save a ton of cash, but if this is the best I can do, then it's not worth the effort.
I don't really look forward to smoking over 250 grams of mediocre pot.

I find this hard to believe. many of these modern strains of autos have been lab tested by the breeders and most if not all are every bit as strong as photoperiod plants. And if you grow some and it seem a bit on the mild side to you, make some hash oil out of it! If that doesn't do ya, nothing will!

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I don't think that the store bought pot in Amsterdam comes from autos though, so I am wondering if a photoperiod strain would be more potent.
It seems to me that if you have to cross a potent strain with a ruderalis, which is not potent, to get auto flowering, then the potency of the plant is going to suffer.
I like the convenience of autoflowering strains, but my experience with their potency has been disappointing.

Its my understanding that, a few years ago, when autos were just becoming popular, they didn't have the same potency. But thats a thing of the past. Who's seeds did you use? Genetics has a lot to do with it. And recently I smoked some NL a friend grew from autos, and it nailed me to the sofa! If the plant looked big and healthy, it can't be how you grew it. Sound like so so genetics to me. Also, I've never heard anyone say their White White was only fair!

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I think if you're looking for absolutely the most potent weed man can grow, photoperiod strains are going to win the medal.

I'd put an auto version of anything you'd like to name, up against a photo. When the genetics and breeding are done right, there will be no difference. Get you some Dutch Passion seeds and grow some Blue AutoMazar, or their auto Wwhite Widow. If the don't work for you then you should quit smoking lol!

:Sharing One:

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How was trichomes on those buds? I'd imagine the WW was pure snow.
About Amsterdam, I smoked two strains last visit; smiling (or something) Buddha and White Dolphin. Buddha was pretty weak but I passed out on Dolphin.
Comparing those my Betty Boo (AF) grown in cheap conditions was success. No passing out but energetic head/body buzz for 1.5 hours, still, close a year of nightly toking

Nice! I want to get some Betty Boo and grow it in one of those vertical wall gardens.

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Been thinking about this one for a bit....
I am sure that your findings regarding potency are accurate for you. Although I must say it's a fairly high standard for comparison that you are using. Cost would be a factor for me. I would (and will when we get some dispensarys around here) probably treat myself to some strains but I think I can grow to suit my needs just fine. And that's the major reason for me I think, auto or photo, I can focus on growing what works well for me as a medicine. There are some strains that I think will be right for me that are autos, Dragons come to mind immediately. Also the growing is therapy as well. I will be growing both for a long time I hope and I hope you find a good potent strain for yourself that puts you away in the way you like the best!!

My counter to this is, be it photos or autos, any hobby/home grower should be able to grow better stuff than any commercial grower! they don't have the time or resources to devote to their plants that we do. I'm confident that with a little more experience, I can grow better cannabis than any commercial grower! I'm waiting to see some reply/replies, and I'll apologize if I'm wrong, but this feels like s troll post......

 

[tokaite]

Thanks. I don't plan to stop trying, but it's frustrating to spend so much time for an average result.

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Thanks. I don't plan to stop trying, but it's frustrating to spend so much time for an average result.

High!

Sorry to hear bro ..:Sharing One:, choosing the right breeder / seed is mandatory :thumbs:.
Check around on here, lots of reviews / grow bro.
Am new to Auto but not photo and was happily surprised by:

1. AK 49 ( Vision Seeds) High yield / high+ THC
2. Super Critical+ (GHS) Medium yield / good THC


if you are more INdi, go Dragon's


Peace!

 

[Surfer Joe]

Who's seeds did you use? Genetics has a lot to do with it. And recently I smoked some NL a friend grew from autos, and it nailed me to the sofa! If the plant looked big and healthy, it can't be how you grew it. Sound like so so genetics to me.

I got the seeds from a few seed shops in Amsterdam. The white widow came from dinafem and the nl came from sensi seeds.
I do need to look at which strains to grow next and I am checking out lots of threads to see what people seem to think is good.
I have read some interesting things about a strain called think different, but I haven't seen that in the shops in Amsterdam.

 

[Muddy]

Something to consider when comparing autos to photos is that photos have been serious bred since the last 70s, autos only in the last 6 years or so. Some of the early auto strains weren't that potent as they contained a higher percentage of ruderalis. On testing many of them weren't more than about 8 - 12% THC. Through continued breeding many of today's autos are hitting the 20% mark with most now over 15%. That put them right up there with the best photos. The ruderalis, with the exception of the auto flowering gene, has been bred out and many of today's strains contain less than 5% ruderalis. While I think the top photo strains are still a bit more potent, the difference isn't much. Maybe as little as taking 6 hits of a photo compared to 8 hits of an auto to get the same high.

My suggestion would be to look at some of the World of Seeds auto strains for your next grow. Afghan Kush, Mango, Coffee or Pakistani Ryder. They are some of the most potent auto strains on the market today and a lot more potent than many popular photo strains.

 

[Surfer Joe]

Thanks. I have tended to go for the old strains that I recognized when buying seeds, such as northern lights, white widow and a super skunk auto I tried on my previous grow.
Maybe I should be looking at some of the more recent strains that have been developed with reduced ruderalis genetics?
I will check out the ones you recommended.

 

[wwwillie]

My counter to this is, be it photos or autos, any hobby/home grower should be able to grow better stuff than any commercial grower! they don't have the time or resources to devote to their plants that we do. I'm confident that with a little more experience, I can grow better cannabis than any commercial grower! I'm waiting to see some reply/replies, and I'll apologize if I'm wrong, but this feels like s troll post......

I am with you Pop... As folks have said about skills, once once I get mine tuned up, I KNOW I can grow as good and I am sure better than the average commercial and definitely better than what is generally available on the street.

 

[Dr Who]

Joe, I think that there is also another issue, which is that autos will be grown from seed, whereas photos will most likely be grown from cuttings. Photo growers can therefore maintain the potency of the most potent individual from the batch, whereas autos will always show some variability between individuals of the same variety, and not all of them will be equally potent.

My early experiences with autos were fairly similar to yours, although a recent trip to Amsterdam made me change my mind. The weed I tried didn't really seem to be much more potent than at least some of the autos I was growing around the time.