@BigSm0 Here is a yarn for ya mate , AFN is a world wide community with different income levels , Yes we would love to have those lights , and income to be able to afford them is not there , So Mars may not be the best , but hay , it is what we can afford . Some one who is starting out is not going to get the big yields and the light will not be the problem , We live within our means , if we only get 3 once out of a plant we are way more than happy about it . I think some of you senior growers forget that you put guys of from starting to grow , you over well the by the things you say , You can grow good weed with Mars , and basic nutrients , and a bit of study .









