Cobbers [ Aussie slang for mates ] , yield , unless you have a back ground in Horticulture I have found the things they say on the seed sites is not within our reach , we make a lot of mistakes to get to that dream , there is so many factors that come into play; with the pictures we see here from the master growers , can we do it , I say yes we can , BUT , it is a very big BUT , the senior growers on this site have many years on us , and there is no short cut . When we look at the seed site's we go oh yer , I want that one and that one , we are like kids in a lolly shop and we will get that yield -- bull shit- growing is like life , you in a hurry , or take your time and you will be rewarded , if our ears are open and the mind is able to listen we will be are able to benefit from the knowledge from this site , and yes try what you want , but the people here a are only trying to guide us . If we listen to them that is up to us , I have said this once before , I am sorry I can't remember but this is what stuck in my mind ,--- See what you are seeing , --- I believe if you spend time with you plants you will understand what I am saying , which will unable us to get to get to the stage of what we we see here , do we need the big dollar set ups -- no -- again the help here is for all of us , be it one plant or ten , no one cares , I say whoo you only got 20 gram , I say good on ya mate .--- Do not judge me by my yield -- I am here to learn -- which is life . AFN is awesome .