Easy Organix

[growbiewon]

Hello everyone.

I love good organic cannabis, I'm a connoisseur, or an aficionado, if you will. LOOOOVE the terpenes.

Seriously though, I like the KISS methods and would like to share my two organic recipes. One is passive "hydro" and one is like a super soil if you will.

Keep this in mind my local water ph is 7.5 - 7.7. I usually try to let the water sit for a day or two but sometimes I just give em a drink out the tap. Luckily, our mineral and chlorine ppms are very low.

Before I get things crackin up in hurr I'm on deck for a DAB of that ever so yummy LIVE plant ROSIN.....


Ok, back to business folks.

If I only have a few plants this first method works very well.

ORGANIC HYDRO

1. Promix Hp
2. Earth Juice Original Liquid Nutrient line
Grow, Bloom, Catalyst, Microblast

I never ph'd the nutes or the water. I feed every watering and I noticed these nutrients were quite weak if you follow directions on bottle...

Very user friendly IMO and easy not to burn your girls.

I love that the bloom formula has ZER0 nitrogen, be careful though because you want to use the grow most of the flowering period combined with the Bloom but just not the last week or two as the zero N will make the girls fade quick.

I would just eyeball it after a while and never burned anything or had lock out.

I suggested this method to a couple friends who had good results as well. I was told the high water ph and the low ph of the nutes worked in our favor.

Adding crushed not prilled dolomite lime helps with calcium and magnesium as well as keeps the ph from plummeting. I use ONE TBLS per gal for this method.

Honestly this is pretty much the easiest organic hydro you can do.

The bottle says not to ph when hand watering btw.



Easy Organix Soil

I alsways start by cloning in solo cups with promix hp, or If Im starting seeds I plant directly into the 1 gallon.

When the clones root they go into 1 gal grow bags with a light mix as follows

Clone mix: ! GALLON
3 qt promix hp
1 qt good base soil or compost
~cup of EWC


Easy Right?
The plants wont need much in the first week or two to get established.

After the plants grow for about two weeks, they go into 3 gallon grow bags with a bit of Fox Farms Fruit and Flower, dry organic nutes.

I like this nute because its ph balanced to 6.3-6.8 for soil growers, and has soooo many goodies inside.

No cook time required, easy peasy, plant directly into this mix.

Veg mix: 3 Gallon
2 gal Promix Hp
1 gal compost or base soil
~1 cups earth worm casting
1/2 cup crushed not prilled dolomite lime
1/2 cup FOX FARM: Fruit and Flower dry nutes

MIX THOROUGHLY. Mix Again, please.


Now Depending how large you want to grow you can veg for another week or two and then bud in the 3gal or bud right away in the 3 gal.



OR you can veg for 2-3 more weeks in the 3 gallon and then transplant into a 7 gal if you prefer larger plants.:jaw:

Since you already have 3 gal of soil in your pot you just need to realy make another batch like above, just hotter

Large Plant mix: 7 gallon

2.5 gal Promix Hp
1 gal compost or base soil
~1 cups earth worm casting
1/2 cup crushed not prilled dolomite lime
1.5 cup FOX FARM: Fruit and Flower dry nutes

MIX THOROUGHLY. Mix Again, please. Veg 2-3 more weeks....


Enjoy only watering.
Smoke dank.
Be happy.
[END]


omg that was super loooooong
+rep for anyone that reads this whole thing.....bwahahaha

 

[Eyes on Fire]

clone mix looks nice dude.but imho Id not use the granules and thats one reason why is in these they can promote cancer.and some yokel said OH it might be the microbes in Cali..?uhhh nope its not them..if that were the case there would be hundreds n thousands of things not suitable for the market or organics and contain the same warning(s) so imo, these are not fully organic. theyre a lightly chleated mash of whats mostly organic components.its the settling of any haevier metals in the leaves from that to the roots and the oils essentially.so it'll increase the organic flavors compared to a straight up chem grow but imho its not even fully organic.not trying to be a dick bro just an opinion my friend.oh and whats crushed lime?pellet lime crushed?ive never heard of crushed lime..powdered or sweet lime(dolomite Lime powder) pulverized lime even but not crushed..lol. yeah Im guessing pulverized is whatcha mean..?lol:Sharing One:

 

[growbiewon]

The lime is soil sweet,it's a white powder and small granules....

Which granules are you referring too as not recommended?

What nutes cause cancer?

I'm using a dry powered organic nute.
Google Fox farm happy frog fruit and flower.

The earth juice liquid original line is organic as well.
This method was emulated from a very successful online grower.

I'm not understanding your problem here...

I don't think you are being a dick, your just trying to help.

I'm not fully educated on tru organic soil mixes but I have used more types of soils and mediums than I can remember,and these two methods are my go to.

I would love to do better with a good tlo soil but it would take some learning on my part and experimenting with a plant or two.

What do you suggest?

 

[Eyes on Fire]

oh i dunno if it CAUSES cancer.in some possibly but promotes in many is why the warning on the granular fruit n flower dry nutes is there.its a highly(or higher than should be)caustic material that been binded(chleated essentially)to the organic compounds.its all marketing the corrupt shits lol.but yeah I was only curious at to if it was sweet lime all powder which is sweet or pulverized lime.Ive never seen granules in my Lime.lol!

and im also not saying its not a way to grow cause Im certain its a fine way to grow a nice plant hands down.Its just not fully natural and can be improved on ,many many times imo. and as far as recipes theres prolly 4 or even 6 Id say from a broken down version of the Revs 2.1 recipe I like,to A4's former recipe to DubV's or even a thinned out version of Subcools or even a slightly added to version of L3vers...organic recipe sticky is a decent place to start and a few other threads on how too's as well as broken down,and simplified versions of severla recipes that that guide can help with to be honest.you really only need three threads prolly n here they are lol enjoy:Sharing One:

https://www.autoflower.org/f89/tlo-super-soil-recipes-10566-8.html

https://www.autoflower.org/f89/recycling-my-revs-soil-33582.html

https://www.autoflower.org/f89/building-healthy-soil-41139.html

https://www.autoflower.org/f89/humus-soil-building-35631.html

https://www.autoflower.org/f89/liming-amendments-cc-33323.html

https://www.autoflower.org/f89/good-tea-template-39439.html

ok well a few others with decent info you'll find useful id think but many of these are my own threads but there are plenty of others from A4 to name one.Piggy,swamp I mean I could go on they are all worth a look if it pertains to you man,lol hope this helps.

 

[pop22]

Hello everyone.

I love good organic cannabis, I'm a connoisseur, or an aficionado, if you will. LOOOOVE the terpenes.

Seriously though, I like the KISS methods and would like to share my two organic recipes. One is passive "hydro" and one is like a super soil if you will.

Keep this in mind my local water ph is 7.5 - 7.7. I usually try to let the water sit for a day or two but sometimes I just give em a drink out the tap. Luckily, our mineral and chlorine ppms are very low.

Before I get things crackin up in hurr I'm on deck for a DAB of that ever so yummy LIVE plant ROSIN.....


Ok, back to business folks.

If I only have a few plants this first method works very well.

ORGANIC HYDRO

1. Promix Hp
2. Earth Juice Original Liquid Nutrient line
Grow, Bloom, Catalyst, Microblast

I never ph'd the nutes or the water. I feed every watering and I noticed these nutrients were quite weak if you follow directions on bottle...

Very user friendly IMO and easy not to burn your girls.

I love that the bloom formula has ZER0 nitrogen, be careful though because you want to use the grow most of the flowering period combined with the Bloom but just not the last week or two as the zero N will make the girls fade quick.

I would just eyeball it after a while and never burned anything or had lock out.

I suggested this method to a couple friends who had good results as well. I was told the high water ph and the low ph of the nutes worked in our favor.

Adding crushed not prilled dolomite lime helps with calcium and magnesium as well as keeps the ph from plummeting. I use ONE TBLS per gal for this method.

Honestly this is pretty much the easiest organic hydro you can do.

The bottle says not to ph when hand watering btw.



Easy Organix Soil

I alsways start by cloning in solo cups with promix hp, or If Im starting seeds I plant directly into the 1 gallon.

When the clones root they go into 1 gal grow bags with a light mix as follows

Clone mix: ! GALLON
3 qt promix hp
1 qt good base soil or compost
~cup of EWC


Easy Right?
The plants wont need much in the first week or two to get established.

After the plants grow for about two weeks, they go into 3 gallon grow bags with a bit of Fox Farms Fruit and Flower, dry organic nutes.

I like this nute because its ph balanced to 6.3-6.8 for soil growers, and has soooo many goodies inside.

No cook time required, easy peasy, plant directly into this mix.

Veg mix: 3 Gallon
2 gal Promix Hp
1 gal compost or base soil
~1 cups earth worm casting
1/2 cup crushed not prilled dolomite lime
1/2 cup FOX FARM: Fruit and Flower dry nutes

MIX THOROUGHLY. Mix Again, please.


Now Depending how large you want to grow you can veg for another week or two and then bud in the 3gal or bud right away in the 3 gal.



OR you can veg for 2-3 more weeks in the 3 gallon and then transplant into a 7 gal if you prefer larger plants.:jaw:

Since you already have 3 gal of soil in your pot you just need to realy make another batch like above, just hotter

Large Plant mix: 7 gallon

2.5 gal Promix Hp
1 gal compost or base soil
~1 cups earth worm casting
1/2 cup crushed not prilled dolomite lime
1.5 cup FOX FARM: Fruit and Flower dry nutes

MIX THOROUGHLY. Mix Again, please. Veg 2-3 more weeks....


Enjoy only watering.
Smoke dank.
Be happy.
[END]


omg that was super loooooong
+rep for anyone that reads this whole thing.....bwahahaha

Looking good! One thing though, you should consider replacing all that peat moss you use with coco coir. Peat moss is NOT a renewable siurce of organic matter, it takes hundreds of years to form a peat bog. coco coir however, is a renewable and grow friendly resource. You can use it just like peat and potting mix you make will be every bit as good as any peat mix you can buy.

:Sharing One:

 

[Eyes on Fire]

yeah man,once my block is gone and its close and now that Im worming..I got wurmmz so i too will be using coco in replacement of peat moss and slight perlite additives too.so thats a win too man,thx pop I missed that.I was thinking along another line lol:Sharing One:

 

[growbiewon]

I have tried the subcool super soil with great results just don't like cook times.

I bet I can up you one...

I have tried souls mix from brothers Grimm and even Tom hills outdoor mix with also great results. Cook time required...

All great soil mixes but in my current place of living making giant batches of soil for two months down the road is not kiss it's pita...

I like the coco suggestion but I prefer to use coco when growing cubensis...

I'm still not getting the cancer bits....
Are you saying the added microbes are the bad part?

I'll have to research this more.

I work with methanol daily, but cancerous microbes are a first for me.

Other wise the nute mix is just like the earth juice rainbow mix which is also great but harder to get. That's my preferred nute but I have to order it online and the Fox farm is at my local hydro store.

If it makes you happy I'll call it faux-ganics....Lol

The dry nutes can also be used as a tea btw but I like to mix them up with the soil.

The reason I go with these nutes is they are all the ingredients in most soil mixes.

Whether Rob Clarke or Mel Frank or even Jorge Cervantes all those books describe very similar soil mixes.

Instead of buying feather meal bone meal kelp meal etc....separately I just get a bag of goodness from Fox farm or earth juice.

Thanks for stopping by everyone
Cheers all

 

[growbiewon]

ALL of it's ingredients are naturally occurring; for example: petrified bat guano (feces), earthworm castings (same), forest hummus, fish emulsion, shrimp meal, granite dust, ground oyster shells, etc. The label you're referring to states that California has determined that certain ingredients are known to cause cancer. However, the company also states that these "carcinogens" (my word) are NOT added by them--so I'm guessing that they must be inherent to natural ingredients the company uses to form the soil.
Personally, I've seen this warning and have ignored it. Heck, according to CA, everything causes cancer--bacon, the sun, using cellphones, etc. Unless you're going to eat the stuff, I think it can be very safely handled. Just wash your hands well after using it. Remember, there is bat guano (feces) among other naturally occurring, soil enriching ingredients (bacteria, etc.) contained within the soil.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

Naturally occurring ingredients:asbestos,arsenic for example,and some can argue those are organic too,and they are but would you use them in a grow??trust me on this its marketing and their words dude,NOT the entire story of this I promise you.

No not the microbes man,I was talking about what some guy mentioned on the asked questions on amazon.its a binding agent im fairly certain.and those books you mention are used for easy to grow usually for early growers not full on organics.and organics is such a misleading term is pathetic anymore.I literally just shake my head when ppl even mention organics cuz 9 times outta 10 its NOT organic in what organic truly means.marketing and greed and skewed the views and understandings of organics to get your cash and to keep coming back.ill bet anything that a true tlo bud will knock any of those soils bud out of the park so fast and prolly wont get past the smell n crack test lol and its not just the handling of the stuffs dude,its what will be leached into your soil and your plant respectively.so if you wanna do it..?Do it man.as I said it'll grow a nice plant Im sure,but organic?nope.a chealted cheaters feed?yeah!lol Ive worked with soo many nasty ass eat a hole through your face chems it aint funny and not that far off really.not anymore cuz I happen to be kinda sick from it all. those types of things are forppl who dont know what theyre doing and want the easy way out.thats juust how it is and that cant even be argued imho. it just cant thats why they were created,far from the truest forms of organics which dont make anyone any money..?hmmm go figure..lol! and if you dont like cook times?uuhhh lol well your never going to have a beautifully made soil from your own head and hands,and not from a bag of hard compressed granules to disolve in your soil.and it wont rebuild a soil worth a damn over n over again.in time it will fail..fact!not the first grow n maybe not the second.with autos ,maybe you could get another small grow but after that its beyond toast,it'll have to be thinned and worked from the heavier acidic and pH wobbling silts that'll build up and little will correct it short of working it out with more soil and more bags of stuff..and coco is better than peat moss man.it can replace it and it should be too imho like pop mentioned.works pretty much in a tlo mix juust like peat but slightly better for drainage,less perlite by a little bit and many other improvements.

and is at your local hydro store?they are at everyones hydro store dude lol!!

 

[growbiewon]

This is not compressed granules bro it's a powder like substance.

I get what you're saying but I've used plenty of super soils and the difference between those soils and this mix is negligible.

That is why I'm recommending it.

I posted the Amazon response as I knew why you were going this way.....

You can't believe everything you read on Amazon but I understand your concern just don't like the idea that your argument stems from Amazon reviews...

I'm starting to think you're on Fox farm hate mail team...

Do you have a problem with earth juice?
The dry and liquid nutes are organic and work great.....very similar result to Fox farms but I listed the differences above.


I'm not sure why this easy organic method that has very similar results to real cooked soil is so bad?

High horse bro. I have plenty of examples of buds from this mix in my gallery, and a few threads as well. Check out the results man I appreciate the help but it wasn't a I need help thread...

Positive vibes man...Fox farms bashing will not be tolerated in this thread as other alternatives were listed...

Cheers all