First grow and my seedlings are lookin unhealthy and I cannot figure out what it is... *(FIXED IMAGE

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Hey Yall.

First autoflower grow, and first ever grow of any kind...

Any help is greatly appreciated! I looked at leaf pictures and could not figure it out...

EDIT: Fixed the image link... really really sorry about that guys, on my first post here too, how embarrassing..


Here is the relevant info:

Hydro Grows - Coco, NFT, Hempy Bucket...

What is your experience level? First time
What type of hydro set-up are you running? Germinated in rockwool, transplanted to 2L hempy buckets

Your Equipment:
A) Type and wattage of lights. T5 HO
B) Distance from tops? About 6-8 inches
C) Reflector type? Basic T5
D) What are the bulb wattages, kelvin ratings, and schedule? Schedule is 20/4
E) Is there a consistent fresh air supply? Yes, 190 CFM fan through 4inch ducting, pulling through carbon filter
F) Do you have an exhaust fan and a circulation fan? Yes, one exhasut at 190 cfm and 2 small personals
G) Size of reservoir? Res is about 2 inches I guess since that's about how high I drilled the holes

Your nutrients and water:
H) Source of water. (tap or filtered) What's it's ph? Using distilled water PHed to 5.5
I) Specific brand and N-P-K ratio for each bottle. One time only I fed the plants a 100ppm diluted Lucas Formula using GH 2 part
J) What is the ec/ppm of your unadjusted tap (or filtered) water? (0) What is the ec/ppm of your nutrient solution? (100)
L) What is the temperature of your nutrient solution? (reservoir high and low temps) Not sure, approximately room?
M) Does your ec/ppm show a rise or fall when you do your daily PPM check? I have not really watered them enough to get run off since they are still seedlings
N) Does the ph fluctuate? The PH I have been watering with has been 5.5 consistently
O) Do you foliar feed? If so, with what, how often, and at what time do you
spray? (Just after lights come on, just before they go out...) I do not foliar feed
P) How often do you replace reservoir water/nutes? I water between 2-3 times a day as the rockwool gets dry in about 8 hours

Your growroom:
Q) What size of closet, room or hut? Using a wardrobe
R) What are the temps and humidity levels while lights are on? ...With lights off? The temp monitor stays between 75 and 84
S) Have you seen signs of insects in the growroom? I don't think so..
T) Are the roots long and white, or brown and slimy? The tiny ones I saw were white

Your strain:
U) What strain are you growing? Indica dom, Cream of the Crop Narcotic Kush Auto
V) Is this an photoperiod strain? No
W) From seeds or clones? Seeds

Additional info:


  • Put seeds into rockwool 18 days ago
  • I think I have been watering them with water that is too low PH?
  • I have been using 5.5 phed distilled water almost exclusively.
  • I one time used a highly diluted Lucas Formula only 100ppm.
  • Other than that water only.
  • The were sick before I moved them into the 2L hempy buckets which are 75% perlite and 25% vermiculite.
  • I tried to water them with 6.5 water to bring the PH up incase that was it, but it didn't seem to help...
  • Roots hit edges of rockwool yesterday hence the transplant.
  • Mapple (on the left) has some black spots.
  • PJ (on the right) has some really unhealthy looking yellowish black/brown spotted leaves :X
  • PJ also has a red stem and has since birth
  • Mapple has a very small section of red on her stem
 

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Anyone else check out this gallery and get porn site pop up????
 
Anyone else check out this gallery and get porn site pop up????

Other then that like the set up. Glad to see another t5 user. They look a little hungry to me.
 
No iv not clicked it,but ill take your word for it mate & iv removed the link. This sometimes happens when members use a photo hosting site.
@Animity,iv removed the link from your post as a porn site popped up. Please don't use that photo hosting site mate.:smokebuds:
 
YUP,should I report it or look somemore?WTF is that
Anyone else check out this gallery and get porn site pop up????

I'm really sorry if that happened... I have clicked the link with 3 different IP addresses and not gotten any weird pop ups...

It was the only image hosting site I could find that I could get pictures uploaded using Tor. :\

I still can't seem to get any popups at all though clicking through the gallery...

I am going to take the link down and try and upload them here.
 
Hello my friend, I hope after your issue is resolved you stick around and stay! Welcome to AFN! Thank you for taking the time to fill out the form! That's awesome and makes this a lot easier!!

Let's start off by saying that autos have a time sensitive veg period, there's not often a "bounce back" - there's a very small chance thees plants are going to get very large at all now being ~14-16 days old (18 days from seed), but if you have any chance of a bounce back it's going to be in a hydro set-up.

The plants are hungry. In hempy, you usually want to give a light feed as soon as the seed starter cubes are put in. I usually do around 100-150PPM as soon as I transplant into my Hempy. At the very least, CalMag that's nitrogen based. This gives the plant calcium, magnesium and nitrogen which are essential to getting it started. If you don't have CalMag use dechlorinated tap water with a touch of Lucas.

You're feeding with an automatic lockout pH of 5.5, this is too low. 5.8 is the sweet spot for Hempy and you can fluctuate up to 6.2 and still get good nutrient absorption. 5.5 though, is too low. While most of your nutrients can still be absorbed this is at the low end of the spectrum.. so it's not ideal.

You're using distilled water. This water has all trace minerals removed from it and isn't it a good choice if you're going to use "just plain water". You'd of had better results using dechlorinated tap because it has some trace minerals in it. You see that huge rusty spot on the leaf? That's the plant trying to absorb calcium that isn't available in the root zone. Distilled water needs nutrients added to it in hydro applications, from day one.

Did you soak your rockwool to 5.8-6.0 pH? You say they were sick prior to moving them.

They look a bit over watered as well (droopy, crinkled) - when you water, are you letting the water run out of the reservoir hole every time? This is not necessary, you just need to water until you feel that they're "heavier" than they were. If you've watered before they were ready and watered to the reservoir drain.. then they're definitely a little soaked down there.

It will take a few days for them to "perk back up" especially if your root zone is saturated right now. While Hempy is a passive wick system, the vermiculite does have water retention - so watering before they need it will suffocate the roots some until the water is gone.

6.5pH is too high for Hempy in most conditions.

What is your tap ppm? Do you know?

With all of that said, I offer this resolution to you -

Draw up a nutrient solution that has Calcium, Magnesium and Nitrogen in it - if you do not have these nutrients available, use your tap water - let it sit and air out for 24 hours then add 80-100ppm of Lucas solution on top of your tap waters ppm. Do not water to the reservoir hole but water lightly around the plant, use your judgement - if they're 2L hempys, no more than 4-6oz of water around the stalk of the plant. This puts the nutrients in the root zone but doesn't flood it further.

Try to get the heat up to the mid 80s in your grow room, this will help the plant transpire faster and use up some of the water in the nutrient zone. You said 84 was your high temperature, try to maintain this with lights on for awhile until they perk up a bit.

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This image shows you how absorption starts to taper off @ 5.5 a lot more so than 6.0 (5.8 in your situation), I know it sounds crazy but 0.3-0.5 is quite the swing in a hydro application.
 
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