Flowering plants look ill

[BottleToke]

Problem: Two out of Six of my flowering plants look very ill. Leaves are droopy and the flowers are not growing well or stretching.

Medium/grow method: Biobizz Light-Mix / extra perlite Using 3 Gallon smart pots

Feed: and supplements used: Diluted Generic Organics Go Box. about 2 ML Bloom and 1ML CaMg per 5 Gallon. Fed more and I did get some nute burn around Week 3-4. Very Mild.

Water Source: Using a RV filter to remove chlorine. Water tastes great, so it is working to filter the chlorine. I admit I have not been pHing my water. Letting water warm for a day before use.

Strain/age: Plants are around Day 30 from planting. 2 White Widow Auto 2 Nirvana AK-48 2 Nirvana Bubblicious.

light used: Using 3 LED: CREE CXA3070 3000K Roleadro COB Led Grow Light

Climate: Temps around 73-83 F. Temps have been crazy in my area so its been a bit hard to keep a consistent temp. Humidity around 38-42%

Additional info: 4 of the 6 look great in my opinion. They all started to flower around the same time, only 2 look a bit sickly.

I have been very careful with overwater/overnute since I did have a little burn around week 3/4.

You all also helped me on another issue I was having early in the grow, I think I was just being paranoid as the plants bounced back great. Is this another case of my being paranoid? Are these two just taking longer to flower? I have uploaded pics of the droopy plants, and also the good looking plants for comparison.

 

[namvet25]

Are you PH'ing your intake water?Looks like they all need veg nutes or nitrogen to get them to green up full dose.Also up your cal/mag to 5ml per gallon

 

[BottleToke]

Are you PH'ing your intake water?Looks like they all need veg nutes or nitrogen to get them to green up full dose.Also up your cal/mag to 5ml per gallon

I have not been PHing my water. I keep coming back to this and need to find a solution I suppose. I have never had any issues with the water I use for any other plant. I have been de-chlorinating and letting the water set to warm.

So I should add some additional CalMag and go back to the Veg nutes? I have been stand offish since slightly burning the plants around week 3/4. Other than the color the droopiness was my main concern. Are they just needing more water?

 

[namvet25]

I have not been PHing my water. I keep coming back to this and need to find a solution I suppose. I have never had any issues with the water I use for any other plant. I have been de-chlorinating and letting the water set to warm.

So I should add some additional CalMag and go back to the Veg nutes? I have been stand offish since slightly burning the plants around week 3/4. Other than the color the droopiness was my main concern. Are they just needing more water?

Usually when plants droop they are either to wet or to dry so lift the pots and if they are heavy leave them dry out but if there lite water them fully until you get runoff.

 

[GoAuto6]

Ya what he said, up arrow.

 

[BottleToke]

Sounds good I will keep an eye on them. I guess they will just be a bit smaller than the other plants. They are starting to flower more but still not stretching like the other plants.

 

[Waira]

- no need to pH adjust the nutes, not in that organic line,... I think they are under fed now, so start full dose feeding,.. some pics in normal light will be helpful too, grow light color rendering is lousy and color is a big clue,... I'm not sure why the one is droopy, unless it went very dry or over-watered, both cause the droops but for entirely different reasons,.. are you using inoculants? They are much needed in organic grows, as they are needed to break down the organics into available forms for uptake,.....

 

[BottleToke]

So I think I know what I have done. I just hope its not too late to fix the issue. In fear of nute burn I believe I have starved my gals, as Waira suggest. I have clipped a few leaves to take under natural light. They were mostly dead and needed to be removed.

The nutrient feed chart for the organic Go box advises 10 mL per 1 Gallon. I have always read to half that at least, but I was using 25-30% the level. The most affected leaves are mostly yellow and some brown and crispy. I also have a few leaves showing a reddish spotting that I am not sure what is causing it.

I have given a full feeding today and will watch how the plants react. Also to answer the inoculate question, I am not using as this is the first time I have heard of needed one.

Attached some pics below. Also is it normal for the lower leaves to yellow that much doing mid-flower or is that also being caused by the under feed.

 

[Waira]

...yup, multiple defc. happening, N and P stand out most,... You don't absolutely need inoculants/live teas, but not using them will likely limit your results,... they play a huge role in many things especially with organic nutes, as explained....

 

[BottleToke]

What deficiency is caused the rusty looking color on these leaves? I have given the plants a full feeding but one plant is heavily affected by the rust.