DIY help me build a round spinning room

[evol]

I had an idea last night and couldnt stop thinking of designs for my new setup when I move next month. my idea is for a round room that spins. So the lights remain in one place and the entire floor spins.

this seems logical. I would be using a blackstar 240uv and a cali lightworks 400 and want enough space for 5 or 6 large photos


the floor would be based on this type of design but be plastic with holes in it so when I water it will drain through to a kiddy pool underneath.
it could be powered by something like this but with more power. or maybe another type of motor that spins it more like gears.
this is where I need your help I have no clue when it comes to motors and stuff.

it would kinda look like this but the walls would be mylar and the frame pvc pipe

please help with any suggestions like size of the room, venting options, ect...
I want to have it all planned out for when I move so I can actually make this happen and I need all the help I can get

 

[TheLittleBoyWhoPointed]

[video=youtube;bhEsRlGuifc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhEsRlGuifc&feature=player_embedded[/video]

[video=youtube;ensmjU96RBs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ensmjU96RBs&feature=player_embedded[/video]

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/d...en-rotogro-gigrow-bonsia-bpod-odessy-etc.html

[video=youtube;rrXiIqOw7FY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrXiIqOw7FY[/video]

[video=youtube;xx1szRpzT-M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx1szRpzT-M[/video]

TLBWP

 

[evol]

I wish I could make the floor spin like my design and also spin the plants like in those vids but I'm having a hard enough time tryin to figure out how to just make the floor spin. but yeah same basic idea but bigger

 

[TheLittleBoyWhoPointed]

spinning back and forth rather than completely around would be the way to go I think....let me do some more searching....will post my results here in a day or three...


TLBWP

 

[Skunky Smurf]

thought about this before but a light mover is much less expensive

it just isn't cost effective you can add another light in the place of the setup and electricity needed

i wanted to do something similiar but it really limits to container growing and no hoses or wires unless you intend on adding a contact to the platform to run power to the platform

and one would be limited to use it in only certain ways for a rather high cost of production

 

[Skunky Smurf]

[video=youtube;bhEsRlGuifc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhEsRlGuifc&feature=player_embedded[/video]

[video=youtube;ensmjU96RBs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ensmjU96RBs&feature=player_embedded[/video]

http://www.420magazine.com/forums/d...en-rotogro-gigrow-bonsia-bpod-odessy-etc.html

[video=youtube;rrXiIqOw7FY]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rrXiIqOw7FY[/video]

[video=youtube;xx1szRpzT-M]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xx1szRpzT-M[/video]

TLBWP

what is the benefit here?
i can see if the bulb was horizontal and each was waiting for their turn so to speak and as it turned the plants would get side angle lighting but w/ the bulb verticle i don't see the extra benefit here really
they are turning in a circle w/ the light constantly hitting the same part of the plant the whole time?
i just imagine the plants that could have been put in the center if it wasn't verticle

 

[evol]

If I'm just spinning the platform how big of a motor would I need? How much would it increase my electricity usage? I just feel like this idea is so much better then just light movers.

 

[TheLittleBoyWhoPointed]

each individual plant is spun around on the spinner, rather than the whole thing....so each plant is rotated to get light all round from the central light source.

Another option using many clones would be the omega garden or the rotogrow
Basically a rotating ring round a central light source....all the plants are lit 'overhead' rather than rotated sidelighting.

http://www.omegagarden.com/

http://www.rotogro.com/

I have an old compost tumbler I have been intending to convert to a rotogro-like contraption....soon I hope


I would think the motor size would depend on the full grown plant's with watered medium's weight...figure that out and go from there to decide the motor strength needed, IMO.

TLBWP

 

[Skunky Smurf]

each individual plant is spun around on the spinner, rather than the whole thing....so each plant is rotated to get light all round from the central light source.

Another option using many clones would be the omega garden or the rotogrow
Basically a rotating ring round a central light source....all the plants are lit 'overhead' rather than rotated sidelighting.

http://www.omegagarden.com/

http://www.rotogro.com/

I have an old compost tumbler I have been intending to convert to a rotogro-like contraption....soon I hope


I would think the motor size would depend on the full grown plant's with watered medium's weight...figure that out and go from there to decide the motor strength needed, IMO.

TLBWP

the only problem w/ the roto imo was sorta the same thing i have alittle against light movers they are great while they are working but the shits when they break and it usually ends up bad like burning
they seem great to save space but if the mechanical malfunction in the motor they stop turning and dry out same sorta w/ a light mover they are great because you can increase garden size somewhat and a larger canopy gets moving angles of light over more of the surface of the plant than just stationary dir above will give you and you can decrease the height of the light because the mover will spread the focus of the heat across the garden and not focus so much in one hot spot so plants won't burn at closer distances to light
so w/ all the great benefits of a mover along w/ increasing footprint w/o added electricity of another light or lights just the small amount required to move the lamp or 's
but... when one fails unless a garden is often tended a tragedy can quickly occur cursing the invention of the wicked light mover

the light mover has another benefit it doesn't require the same weight limits as the floor idea will and more expensive movers ones have contacts so they rotate 360 instead of oscelate like a fan and some on straight rails to go back and forth of course

but the floor model idea isn't as much dependant on the power of the motor as the quality of the barrings inside the bottom of the shaft connecting to the floor
the barrings i was using you could rotate almost the weight of most cars w/ the push of a finger the motor was way overkill off of a spare inducer fan i had that i was using but could be dialed way down to little to nothing it depends on how you set it up and if you intend on using gears the more expensive the barrings will be the big key to lower torque required from gears or what dir you intend to drive it belt chain gears ratching arm??? you have alot of choices really

 

[evol]

wow I wasnt even thinking about the barrings. thats why I posted this thread. so you're saying that if I get the right barrings then I could use a low power motor.
I'm thinking the weight of everything will be between 200 - 300lbs. I'm still not sure about size so any help with that would be great. I want 5 - 6 photos in the minimum amount of space but still enough for them to grow big.