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First Grow, Strain: Cookies Kush Age: 6,7 weeks

AS you can see in the pictures there is a yellowing on the top leaves and seem a bit shriveled.
I think they had light burn earlier because they were too close. But the new growth in the first picture seems like something else.
Advice much Appreciated!
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First Grow, Strain: Cookies Kush Age: 6,7 weeks

AS you can see in the pictures there is a yellowing on the top leaves and seem a bit shriveled.
I think they had light burn earlier because they were too close. But the new growth in the first picture seems like something else.
Advice much Appreciated!
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Can you please explain your setup a bit? like lighting,medium,nutrients being used,temp & humidity , etc..
 
First Grow, Strain: Cookies Kush Age: 6,7 weeks

AS you can see in the pictures there is a yellowing on the top leaves and seem a bit shriveled.
I think they had light burn earlier because they were too close. But the new growth in the first picture seems like something else.
Advice much Appreciated!
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that isn't light burn, From looks of stems I see red on them, which telling me calmag def, that could also be causing the yellowing...It seems like your humidity might be too low also..just from look of leaves... I'm sure @Waira can help better, but she may recommend a foliar spray using Epsom salt to clear up that calmag def a bit..
 
:coffee: Unique, puttin' me to work!

... :toke: Phil, please fill out the patient form in the highlighted section above here,... copy and paste it into here then add the info in- :thumbsup:.... I'll be back later to see what's up....
 
:coffee: Unique, puttin' me to work!

... :toke: Phil, please fill out the patient form in the highlighted section above here,... copy and paste it into here then add the info in- :thumbsup:.... I'll be back later to see what's up....
am sorry @Waira Happy Holiday's to you:pighug: Next time I will know to have them fill-out the form first...
 
Sorry, didn't know about the form.

Problem: Yellow upper leaves around the edges, slightly shriveled upper leaves, red stems of bigger leaves, drooping lower stems

Medium/grow method: J Arthur Bower's Multiple-Purpose Compost Soil

Feed: and supplements used: Fox Farm's Grow Big and Big Bloom - Half of the recommended dose on their website (started after first month) sprayed mixed with water

water source: Reverse Osmosis Filter, Ph brought down to 6-6.5

Strain/age: Cookies Kush (Barney's). 7 weeks

light used: Currently 2 40 w led flood lights about 5 inches high (have come as close as 2inches), 18-6 light cycle. Waiting for 600w light to arrive in 2 weeks.

Climate: min. temp -18. max. temp - 23c. I still need to buy a humidity meter but I think it is on the dry side. Suggestions about making the closet humid will also be appreciated

Additional info: plants have been affected for 2 weeks, I didn't have a problem before.


Btw, thank you so much for this!!!! should have joined this forum earlier.
 
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:smoking: no worries mates, that's just fine,... :smokeout:.... yeah, the form is anything but obvious, but there's no way to funnel peep's to there first, so sometimes we just have to ask,...

Phil, this looks like Zn defc. to me starting,...it's a micronute, immobile (within the plant, so that means it's can't be taken from other established tissues and translocated to support new growth), so that's why it hit the tops first and worst,... firts thing we need to determine is your in-pot soil pH, which usually the info hang-up point! Best way to do this is with a quality soil pH probe,.. the Accurate 8 is a good on, the cheapo store bought skinny ones are dubious for accuracy,... since it's unlikely you have one, we'll have to guestimate, and make some assumptions,....
Do you adjust the final nutrient solution after everything is added? Using RO, you should be using a little Ca-Mg supplement as well,... As for pH'ing RO water, don't bother! pH meters have difficulty reading it right to begin with (chemistry stuff and how the meter works is why),... only thing to test there is EC/TDS to see how the filter is performing,... wiht all pH buffering minerals removed, Ro/Di water is prone to swing wildly in pH from even small inputs,... in the future, add Ca-mg first, then nutes, let sit for several minutes to stabilize, and then take/adjust pH if needed... likely adjust up since nutes tend to be acidic,...
This pH stuff is about figuring out if you have a simple lack-of defc., or an off-pH issue causing a lockout of certain nutes; I'll drop a chart here so you can see what I mean,... the snag is, if you add more nutes to off pH mediums, things will likely get worse, not better! Soooo, what to do,.... I see no other symptoms that indicate off-pH, but that's not definitive,... best you can do is a crude run-off test... First I should point out that since you use RO without any Ca-Mg (most Ca/Mg supp's have some carbonate compounds in them, and it's the carbonates that are involved with pH buffering in solution), and feeds are acidic, it's unlikely you have soil that alkaline enough to cause Zn lock-out,... Still, the soil is an unknown for what actual buffering is in there (lime), it can (rarely) happen that too much lime got in there and is driving the pH up despite acidic inputs,... So a crude test is called for with run-off... rather than put you through the whole procedure (outlined in that same section as the patient form), let's do a rough test using water only, and collecting run-off from a clean container,.. it's lousy accurate, but if it comes out way off, it will at least hint at if there's a lockout issue,...
Your feeds are Ok for dosage I think,.. how often? Do you have Tiger Bloom as well? Big Bloom is not really a fertilizer IMO, the NPK#'s are all in the decimal range, super weak,... a great supplement, but not rich enough to be a fert',... Once we get that r-o tested, next step is getting the right supplement to treat this; I recommend a dedicated micronute supp', like Earth Juice Microblast,... treating both soil and doing foliar is the fastest way to quash it! The Grow does have Zn in it, but maybe not enough to meet demands under dilution,... pending that r-o result, will figure if you soil needs adjusting first,.....

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Yeah, unfortunately the PH soil meter I have is wildly inaccurate and it's hard to come by an accurate one where I live.
I do adjust the PH of the final nutrient solution. So far it is automatically between 6.0-6.5. When prepare water without nutes I add a bit of lemon to bring it down to 6.0-6.5. (I usually only wait 30 seconds for it to settle, maybe I should wait a little longer).
Also I do not have an EC/TDS meter, I have a water PH meter, which I think is pretty accurate. I'll try to look around and find an EC/TDS meter (Alternatively I could also started using tap water and dechlorinate it in the sun
I watered the plant a couple days ago so the soil is still moist. When it gets dry I'll try to do a PH run-off test (even though I haven't had any run-off from the drainage holes so far, I'll try adding water until I get some run-off. (I will give an update about the run off test on this post)
As far as my feeds, I give them every other watering. I usually water after 3-4 days, so the plant is fed every 6-7 days. I have Tiger Bloom with me but haven't started using it (should I start adding that to the mix as well). Again, I'm in Pakistan and it'll be hard to find something like Earth Juice Microblast (I do know a place where I can get epsom salt though) but, I'll go to the local grocery stores and see what they have.

Thanks again!
 
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UPDATE: I found an EC/TDS meter and measured water from the RO filter. The results are:
TDS - 12 ppm
EC - 25 us/cm
 
:thumbsup:... looks OK, just keep an eye on the RO ppm's,... you may need a new membrane fairly soon, if the ppm's keep creeping up,... some units can be back flushed which may extend the life of the membrane, so if you have a manual for it, or can look it up online, do so,... That said, I have serious doubts your soil is too alkaline,... your pH meter, has it been calibrated recently, and kept in the proper storage solution? ...hope so! But I can sympathize with the severe limitations on you access to such things and products,... Good on the TDS score!
.... never had any run-off yet? Some is good, not every time, but on occasion... likely, the first run-off is going to be crazy high ppm, which puts the pH is greater question,... but of more concern is finding a micronute supplement,...
How much longer are you gopi9ng to veg' these? I think are not auto's, right?
 
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