New Grower is the ph up or down harmful at all?

[fweedom]

well i use general hydroponics ph up and down, the bottle looks like this...


sorry if its a dumb question but does the ph up or down do anything harmful to the soil or microbes or anything? would it be harmful at all to give water mixed with that ph up to a plant on day 1?

ive used it for years but i usually dont need it until i add nutes, i have 2 plants at 1 day old and i checked the ph of the water i gave them and its below 6.5 i think... so if i add some of that ph up is it ok to give it to 1 day old plants?

is that stuff harmful to any parts of the plant, roots, soil at all? :smokebuds:

ive never had to add any ph up this early on usually my distilled is closer to 7 so i dont wanna hurt my 1 day old plants by adding any :

 

[fweedom]

rep to whoever can answer those questions for me :stylez rasta smoke:

 

[A4]

I don't want any rep bro. It isn't harmful in the amounts needed to raise your water. It is potassium hydroxide mixed with water as a base. You can use baking soda as well if you feel safer. And lemon juice as ph down.

 

[Bromeo]

No those are not harmful to your soil. Those are actually buffered for use in soil and the ph down from that same company won't burn coco like lemon juice can.

 

[Son of Hobbes]

Hey bro are you familiar with Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS)? Many manufacturers are required to keep MSDS sheets on hand of chemicals and other hazardous materials; which provides a data breakdown of the material and the hazards associated with them. Here's the MSDS sheet for pH Up from General Hydroponics website (it's a PDF file):

pH Up MSDS Sheet

Look down at the third section titled "Composition," you'll see it's listed as Potassium Carbonate at 10-30% composition. Potassium carbonate is a white salt, soluble in water, which forms a strong alkaline solution (web definition of alkali: "a chemical compound that neutralizes or effervesces with acids and turns litmus blue; typically, a caustic or corrosive substance of this kind such as lime or soda.") It's a common ingredient in club soda (lessens the fizz of the carbonation.)

 

[A4]

Good catch vaporhaizer, my mistake on that one. That's what I get for not looking it up.:

 

[fweedom]

I don't want any rep bro. It isn't harmful in the amounts needed to raise your water. It is potassium hydroxide mixed with water as a base. You can use baking soda as well if you feel safer. And lemon juice as ph down.

thanks bro, ima give you and the other guys some rep anyway : and is baking soda safer than the stuff i got? or is it just something different i can use? cause if its safer ill go get some now :

No those are not harmful to your soil. Those are actually buffered for use in soil and the ph down from that same company won't burn coco like lemon juice can.

thanks for putting my mind at ease bro :High 5:

Hey bro are you familiar with Material Safety Data Sheets (MSDS)? Many manufacturers are required to keep MSDS sheets on hand of chemicals and other hazardous materials; which provides a data breakdown of the material and the hazards associated with them. Here's the MSDS sheet for pH Up from General Hydroponics website (it's a PDF file):

pH Up MSDS Sheet

Look down at the third section titled "Composition," you'll see it's listed as Potassium Carbonate at 10-30% composition. Potassium carbonate is a white salt, soluble in water, which forms a strong alkaline solution (web definition of alkali: "a chemical compound that neutralizes or effervesces with acids and turns litmus blue; typically, a caustic or corrosive substance of this kind such as lime or soda.") It's a common ingredient in club soda (lessens the fizz of the carbonation.)

thanks for that man, thats interesting never seen that before:smokebuds:

 

[fweedom]

Good catch vaporhaizer, my mistake on that one. That's what I get for not looking it up.:

is there something i missed, or need to know before i water with it? :

 

[A4]

No dude, you are all good. They are both bases that will raise the ph of water. I don't think one if safer than the other but I am no chemist either. GH's stuff is made for consumable plants so it is perfectly safe. I have been using the exact same product since I started growing. I would guess 90% of the growers use that in one form or the other.

 

[fweedom]

Alright cool thanks guys, I probably sounded like a noob asking that lol I too have used that same stuff since like 2011, just never on a plant literally one day old.. I just rather be safe than sorry :stylez rasta smoke: