Issue Identification Please: Random necrosis, burnt tips etc.....

[olderthandirt]

I'll need to learn more about the predator critters before I use em'. Annnd will need more dollars than currently available too!

 

[olderthandirt]

Time to go blaze and think of lighter brighter things (-:

 

[derek420colorado]

Time to go blaze and think of lighter brighter things (-:

now you are thinkin str8

 

[Waira]

...Ok on the milk, and DE, which will help with any pest that wanders through it,... Ha! you spotted the little shits, ay? Have you googled images of them, or do you already know them by sight? Maybe you saw larvae, not mites,...
..6.2 steady is okay for now mate, just watch it closely, not much wiggle room on the acidic side is all,... but you can keep adding a bit of 'soda for now too, I'm just not happy about Na inputs,...
...SNS makes good stuff! Something with spinosad in it is also great, minimal residues (I say this already?)... yes, but the oils are processed, etc., so they don't burn the shit out of the plants.. I've seen some oil based sprays waste whole plants from 1 treatment! .....too late for predators, and besides, no confirmed spider mites yet, unless you're sure and have had a good magnified look at them!

 

[pop22]

Next time, put a table spoon of lime in your water and you should be good. Monitor ph and adjust your water.

Well then, I obviously hain't spent enough time gazing at the plants. Today I actually spied 2 thrips and damned if I didn't also discern a mite or two.
With respect to the mites I have as yet to see any webbing but..... Every single indication of thrips is glaringly obvious to me..... now. Ah me, grow and learn.

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@pop22 and @Waira
I went ahead and gave em' all a soap spray.

Watered with baking soda this morning. 12 hours later and all pots are solid on 6.2 ph, no change. How long until you would expect to see a change from the baking soda?

Will see what the morrow brings!

 

[pop22]

I use Neem oil then 2 days later, Captain Jack's Dead Bug, a spinsad product also. it kills by a bacteria that kills mites. then a week later neem oil again. IF.......you get them all alternate every two weeks. stop 2 weeks before harvest.

Wait till you see what I do to my 4x4 tent when the current grow is done............ its the only place I have the little bastards!

...Ok on the milk, and DE, which will help with any pest that wanders through it,... Ha! you spotted the little shits, ay? Have you googled images of them, or do you already know them by sight? Maybe you saw larvae, not mites,...
..6.2 steady is okay for now mate, just watch it closely, not much wiggle room on the acidic side is all,... but you can keep adding a bit of 'soda for now too, I'm just not happy about Na inputs,...
...SNS makes good stuff! Something with spinosad in it is also great, minimal residues (I say this already?)... yes, but the oils are processed, etc., so they don't burn the shit out of the plants.. I've seen some oil based sprays waste whole plants from 1 treatment! .....too late for predators, and besides, no confirmed spider mites yet, unless you're sure and have had a good magnified look at them!

 

[pop22]

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I'll send ya a few so you don't feel lonely!

hahahahahahaha fuccck dude I am sorry, Spider MItes!!!!!!!!!!!! I know you have poured over info on what it could be and I know you did NOT want to read it could be something ELSE holy shit I laughed really hard just now

 

[pop22]

I've heard the SNS209 is actually good stuff, and ANYTHING is worth a try.............

Any thoughts on the SNS products.
I figure to make a strong Rosemary tea and soap spray next...

Brother in-law is here and swears up and down that soap spray should do the trick. SNS 209 active ingrediant is Rosemary oil, I have a big Rosemary bush, it should be that simple!!!

 

[olderthandirt]

... Ha! you spotted the little shits, ay? Have you googled images of them, or do you already know them by sight? Maybe you saw larvae, not mites,...
... but you can keep adding a bit of 'soda for now too, I'm just not happy about Na inputs,...
... I've seen some oil based sprays waste whole plants from 1 treatment! .....too late for predators, and besides, no confirmed spider mites yet, ...

As a result of this thread and the insights from everyone that's replied I redoubled me image googling.
Thrip confirmed, both the specific damage as well as the critter itself. Mites, suspect but not confirmed.
The basil I used in the soap spray was a weak tea, not essential oil by any means, as of sun-up today the plants look as before. No better no worse.

Next time, put a table spoon of lime in your water and you should be good. Monitor ph and adjust your water.

I use Neem oil then 2 days later, Captain Jack's Dead Bug, a spinsad product also. it kills by a bacteria that kills mites. then a week later neem oil again. IF.......you get them all alternate every two weeks. stop 2 weeks before harvest....

I've heard the SNS209 is actually good stuff, and ANYTHING is worth a try.............

Wanted to pursue the Baking Soda as I didn't really want to add any more calcium to the mix.
If there is in fact a Ca lockout going on and raising the ph with a liming agent resolves it would I possibly see Ca tox? Would that even be a concern?
Bro-inlaw raised a point last night regarding the sodium Bicarb. I mixed it into water then applied. He felt that approach wrong. Mixed with water the bicarb portion gasses off leaving just salt. If used at all he was thinking mix it into soil then water it in. ...?...

So going forward; running out to grow shop to pick up SNS 209 today.
I also have Calcium Carb arriving today, thought to apply in small bits to see if I can bump the ph in that manner, excess Ca be damned!
heh heh, I ordered it online as the smallest amount I could find locally was a 50lb bag. Thats a whole lot of Super Sweet!

I'll send ya a few so you don't feel lonely!

So thoughtful but really, don't!
(-;

 

[pop22]

Baking soda is vey powerful. If you want to keep using it, this is what I do, I ph my water down to say 6.0, then raise it back to say 6.8. ph tends to stay very stable, even if this is all there is in RO water! its even more stable in tap water. this is basically how I ph all my water andd I have yet to have ph problems