Issue Identification Please: Random necrosis, burnt tips etc.....

[olderthandirt]

I'd think your experience trumps me BinL's conjecture pop.
How long after application until you see change in soil?

Annnnd, would I be inviting disaster by using the lime instead?

Mini rant;
I hate the lime terminology. I see lime I think quick lime and Dorian Grey and covering up corpses.
I'm adding Calcium to soil not disguising stinky corpses!
Mini rant done

 

[pop22]

It will take 2-3 days to see real change, the soil has to stabilize. The difference with lime is it buffers ph to 7.0 and not much more, which is fine. baking soda is a base, and will raise ph to the killing point easily. The extra calcium won't hurt in a single dose. Adjust your water as I do after using the lime once.

When I ph RO water. even after adding cal mag, I get a tiny amount of powder on my finger tip, around 1/16 tsp! That much raises my ph .4 to .5!!!
And I learned my lesson, I use a VERY good ph meter, i'll NEVER buy another cheap one!

I'd think your experience trumps me BinL's conjecture pop.
How long after application until you see change in soil?

Annnnd, would I be inviting disaster by using the lime instead?

Mini rant;
I hate the lime terminology. I see lime I think qiuck lime and Dorian Gey and covering up corpses.
I'm adding Calcium to soil not disguising stinky corpses!
Mini rant done

 

[olderthandirt]

Got it!

I'm using the Accurate 8 for the soil but could only afford an "inexpensive" pen to check water.
So odd that your not supposed to use the Accurate 8 in water, soil only. I need simple dammit (-;

 

[olderthandirt]

Last cup of coffee and off to the grow shop I go woohoo!

 

[olderthandirt]

Only SNS product at the shop was a fungicide.
After lengthy discussion with the folks there about thrips and what works for them and other customers and Bernie Sanders and the lie that is known as Trump I went with Montereys' take on Spinosad.

Just finished spraying the plants.
Laid down some sticky cards.
Tomorrow's a 'nuther day.
Couple of hits of ... something and off to be a streaming spud.

dyethripdye

 

[Waira]

OTD--attaaaack!! Pop22 has you well sorted mate, I'm nodding as I read,... Monterey brand is what I use! ... and thank you to brudda for listening, learning on your own, and applying as best you can!... more than can be said for many a' patient here sometimes,... .... I think ya both need a good smack! -- rosy cheeks for all!

 

[olderthandirt]

LOL, And in turn I thank ya'll from the bottom o' me rosy cheeks (-;

 

[olderthandirt]

@Waira and @pop22 and @Discretepete2676 and @derek420colorado and anyone else that may have wandered through; a Status update.

Spider Mite never really confirmed but thrips fo' sho'.
Monterey Garden Spray most definitely put paid to em'.
I have been seeing gnats, don't know fer shure what type they are but the garden will be getting a Mosquito Dunk drench this afternoon.

Deficiencies. Deep sigh.
Separating probable damages from bugs from those that seem to be nutrient related I'm perty sure what I've got goin' is a combo of Calcium, Potassium and Phosphorus def.
We already know that earlier I had made a noob mistake and applied way too much Epsom.
I also clued into the fact that I had been under-watering all this time. Noob mistake [HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG]. I read recently that the under-watering can drive ph down so.....

So. Tap water is ph of 7.2 to 7.4.
Evaporate chlorine, 6.8 to 7. Same for the teas I've been using, right at 6.8.

Soil ph started life at 6.7 - 6.8.
51 days into grow ph discovered to be 6.2 to 6.4. (under-watering and epsom the cause ?)
I opted for raising the ph before doing anything else.

Watered in baking soda at 1 tbsp / gal. After 2 days ph showed no change at all.

Got antsy and did a minimal flush to see if that might clear the slate a little. 2 days later no significant change in ph, a couple points up on 2 o' the plants so, promising?

So I tried watering in some CaCo3.
Mix 1 tbsp/gal, shake and pour and shake and pour some more.
Annnd I put a layer of DE and sand on for 1st salvo in gnat control.
Annnd another application of spinosad.
And 24 hours later ph is ranging 5.6 to 6.2.

Step back and ponder.... WTF! Really?!?!

So.
1/2 tbsp CaCo3 per gal of soil, side dressed.
Watered in heavily with a tea of bat poo, molasses and a touch of kelp meal.
Last night the ph was back up to about where I started, 6.0 to 6.2.

Another application of spinosad this morning, dunk drench this afternoon.
Water only, thoroughly, tomorrow and look at ph again tomorrow night.

Buds are gettin bigger. Slow but gettin there.
Overall the plants look rough from the brown spots and leaf tip burn but at the same time color is such I believe I can get em' to the finish line.

I do hope after all is said and done I learn sumpin' from all this.
I might even get one of the two remaining spare brain cells out and put it alongside the one currently carrying the load.

Thanks!!

 

[derek420colorado]

@Waira and @pop22 and @Discretepete2676 and @derek420colorado and anyone else that may have wandered through; a Status update.

Spider Mite never really confirmed but thrips fo' sho'.
Monterey Garden Spray most definitely put paid to em'.
I have been seeing gnats, don't know fer shure what type they are but the garden will be getting a Mosquito Dunk drench this afternoon.

Deficiencies. Deep sigh.
Separating probable damages from bugs from those that seem to be nutrient related I'm perty sure what I've got goin' is a combo of Calcium, Potassium and Phosphorus def.
We already know that earlier I had made a noob mistake and applied way too much Epsom.
I also clued into the fact that I had been under-watering all this time. Noob mistake [HASHTAG]#2[/HASHTAG]. I read recently that the under-watering can drive ph down so.....

So. Tap water is ph of 7.2 to 7.4.
Evaporate chlorine, 6.8 to 7. Same for the teas I've been using, right at 6.8.

Soil ph started life at 6.7 - 6.8.
51 days into grow ph discovered to be 6.2 to 6.4. (under-watering and epsom the cause ?)
I opted for raising the ph before doing anything else.

Watered in baking soda at 1 tbsp / gal. After 2 days ph showed no change at all.

Got ansty and did a minimal flush to see if that might clear the slate a little. 2 days later no significant change in ph, a couple points up on 2 o' the plants so, promising?

So I tried watering in some CaCo3.
Mix 1 tbsp/gal, shake and pour and shake and pour some more.
Annnd I put a layer of DE and sand on for 1st salvo in gnat control.
Annnd another application of spinosad.
And 24 hours later ph is ranging 5.6 to 6.2.

Step back and ponder.... WTF! Really?!?!

So.
1/2 tbsp CaCo3 per gal of soil, side dressed.
Watered in heavily with a tea of bat poo, molasses and a touch of kelp meal.
Last night the ph was back up to about where I started, 6.0 to 6.2.

Another application of spinosad this morning, dunk drench this afternoon.
Water only, thoroughly, tomorrow and look at ph again tomorrow night.

Buds are gettin bigger. Slow but gettin there.
Overall the plants look rough from the brown spots and leaf tip burn but at the same time color is such I believe I can get em' to the finish line.

I do hope after all is said and done I learn sumpin' from all this.
I might even get one of the two remaining spare brain cells out and put it alongside the one currently carrying the load.

Thanks!!

Damn dude I really hate grows like that where you are fighting it the whole way, jeez louise man! sending some good luck grow karma your way

 

[olderthandirt]

...you are fighting it the whole way,...

Thankee kindly but....

That's prolly the main issue here exactly.
I'm fighting with shtuff more than I'm payin' attention!