Late use of Colloidal Silver

[SquealDeal]

Hello everyone, thank you for taking the time to read this thread.

I am in a bit of a bad situation and am looking for some advice.

I purchased 100~ "Think Different" seeds, but to cut a long story short, 90% of them died due to root rot/suffocation in an experimental media/nutrient regime. I felt like a real idiot.

I have about 10 plants left and two of the better specimens have been getting sprayed once (now twice) daily with a 20 PPM Colloidal Silver solution. I have been doing this for just over two weeks I believe.

I was hoping to get pollen soon enough so I can attempt to pollinate the remaining "Think Different" plants (that were so stunted they started flowering later than the 'better' specimens)...

Plant #1 - Has completely 'finished' in terms of pistil growth and only has fresh hairs coming out of the very lower bud sites.

Plant #2 - Has 3/4 finished, if not more, but still has an average amount of white hairs being produced, especially lower down on the plant.

Neither have any male parts that can be identified.

Q1) Can a 'finished' bud from an AF start growing male parts if continuously sprayed with colloidal silver and not harvested?

Q2) If selectively harvested and left to regenerate, will a plant being sprayed daily with colloidal silver regrow male parts?

Q3) If I were to leave the plants intact and not harvest them for long enough, will they throw male parts?

Q4) If I leave a 'finished' autoflower bud for long enough, will it literally regenerate bud growth on buds?

Sorry about the format, it's NYE and I am in a hurry haha ....

I desperately need to get fully feminized autoflower seeds to keep the genetics.

P.S. This is all being done outdoors because I have no way to do indoor.

 

[Epic Genetics]

where did you get your 20 PPM Colloidal Silver solution ? if store bought its doubtful as store bought C.S useually contain added proteins and even worse stabilizers , these things coat the coloids making them too big to penetrate the plant

ive never sprayed as late as your mentioning , but i believe if lower parts are still producing new pistils/flowers then you would have a chance , however , the plant surviving long enough for any seeds to become mature/viable is iffy

best of luck and peace

 

[SquealDeal]

I did some research and bought the best Colloidal (actually Ionic) Silver maker I could find. I was counting on the lower branches to continue as males as the worst case scenario. It is still summer here, so maybe when those lower branches become males, I can use them to pollinate the other plants that *hopefully* will be regenerating through late early Autumn.

I really need to keep autoflower genetics/pollen so that I can eventually start working on a fully auto-flowering Mango Haze. I will be using my two best/favourite clones of the two packs I grew out.

One is an early finisher, that produces rich Mango smelling buds bigger than my forearms, in about 9-10 weeks (guessing, since it's outdoors) that are extremely dense for a Sativa-dominant plant.

The second clone is the strongest, most tangy, zesty and pungent plant I have ever smelt. It grows buds everywhere on the plant (no 'popcorn' anywhere basically), which are very dense as well, but with barely any leaves compared to anything I have seen/experienced growing.

The problem is, starting these outdoors from cuttings resulted in awkward flowering transitions this year, almost like the seasons have completely gone haywire. I'm drooling thinking about the autoflower versions ...

 

[JM]

https://www.autoflower.org/content/236-colloidal-silver-particle-size.html

https://www.autoflower.org/content/168-making-colloidal-silver.html

 

[SquealDeal]

Thanks for the links JM. I actually have done a huge amount of reading on Colloidal/Ionic Silver already. I have only been using/making my own for 3 days now, however it's saving me a fortune and is quite simple (you would hope so after spending close to $300).

Another quick question. If I spray an individual branch on a regular photo period plant, will it, and only it, turn male?

 

[yodabuds]

No the idea of the CS is to reverse the entire plant from female to male, CS unlike stress methods (forgot names of the stuff but for instance one that comes to mind is tiresias mist)... You have to spray entire plant with CS...
The plant that you will reverse than will need a recipient of its pollen. The CS plant will be unsmokeable and just will be able to be used for its pollen.
Yoda

 

[SquealDeal]

No the idea of the CS is to reverse the entire plant from female to male, CS unlike stress methods (forgot names of the stuff but for instance one that comes to mind is tiresias mist)... You have to spray entire plant with CS...
The plant that you will reverse than will need a recipient of its pollen. The CS plant will be unsmokeable and just will be able to be used for its pollen.
Yoda

Thanks for the swift answer ...

I guess I will just dedicate an entire little plant to being reversed and use it on identical clones.

As a last resort I could try to use the photo-pollen on a regenerating autoflower bud to hopefully preserve the genetics. From what I have read however, none of the first generation will be autoflower... So I don't know if that will get me anywhere besides a few light-sensitive plants or so.

 

[Wet_Charles]

ive seen people spray lower branches before and turned out fine

 

[SquealDeal]

Time for an update everyone. Everything is turning out well so far.

I harvested the top half of "Plant #1" and continued spraying the rest - I now have the first signs of the reverse... Likely a success.

"Plant #2" is still fully intact, but covered covered in female pollen sacs. It was also the first to reverse, showing that if you start earlier into flowering, the sacs will come quicker. That's only a side-by-side observation of two plants however, not fact.

I believe I should be able to salvage these genetics and get some late seeding done on the autoflower plants I have remaining (getting close to finishing, however). I'll have to leave them in and harvest them late however.

If I have any left over pollen, the Mango Haze crosses will begin, so I'll keep everyone posted.

Hopefully this will help out anyone who is in a desperate situation with new autoflower genetics, and show them that it might not be too late to get some pollen/seed stock (even 2/3 of the way through flowering).

*Starts a thread about breeding Autoflower strains during the Winter to hopefully produce Winter-productive Phenotypes*

 

[1highman]

Another quick question. If I spray an individual branch on a regular photo period plant, will it, and only it, turn male?

Yes, I sprayed 1 branch of my CoC Amphetamine and just that branch produced ball sacs.