Okay just checking in again. Ph in is 6.2 Ph for runoff is 6.1 sometimes 6.3 the only thing they have been given is water Liquid Karma and root starter. Nitrogen level I'm LK is next to nothing. The root enhancer is 1.0 nitrogen per 5 drops per gallon I have been giving 1 to 2 drops of the root stuff and the LK is 5ml per gallon and I have only given 1ml per gallon each watering except this last one. Sunshine mix#4 , temp never above 81, light schedule 20/4 , light 26 inches away, proper airflow. The leaves are getting a lighter color and it's seems they are eating their leaves. They are 12 days old. Their next watering will be tomorrow. I have never watered a whole gallon maybe half between both plants during the scheduled days. The first two are the dwarf and the last two are northern light. I am thinking they maybe hungry but I am new. My kush that I harvested did the same thing just not as early it was just hungry. I tried comparing leaves online but that crap is hard. Thanks everyone