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I suppose the question is if you believe the AI is coming up with this code all by itself. It simply isn't. There is nothing at all "Intelligent" about it.

We'll have to see if it survives all the copyright infringement lawsuits, I suppose. And when companies do not publish their AI "generated" code the discovery part of these cases could prove pretty embarrassing. I do not believe you can legally copyright something you did not create, and that is exactly what AI gives you: Stuff someone else created in the first place.

If you or I spend time developing source code, we have the code in its entirety, along with editing history, and can claim that the code is indeed original. Someone trying to pretend otherwise could have a rough time in a lawsuit. Consider the old case of Phil Katz stealing the source code for ARC for his ZIP software back in the day (yes, that ZIP software everyone uses every day - think "windows compressed folders"). When it went to court, and Katz had to produce the source code, it had the same typos in the code comments, in the same exact place as the code developed by SEA. I would expect something similar to happen when chunks of AI "generated" code matches, byte for byte, someone's open source project.

As an interesting aside, Katz won in the court of public opinion because he handled it better from a business perspective. It did not seem to matter that he blatantly stole someone else's work. I am not sure if what happened in court was little more than an undisclosed settlement; I never really looked into it. I was still a young adult at the time and was not paying much attention to it. And I must say, when news broke of Katz drinking himself to death in a hotel room, I had a hard time mustering much in the way of sympathy.

People are dumping billions into this nonsense because they have to find ways to appease the shareholders. The industry is quite literally running out of ways to convince shareholders that they have the "next big thing coming." I think deep down even the greedy tech giants can see that this will not pan out in the long run. And in the meantime it is wreaking havoc on the environment. I really cannot wait for it to die.

In the furtherance of transparency, I say this from the perspective of a professional software engineer.

Also, if you or someone you know uses Gmail, they may wish to read the current terms of service. It seems Google is actually scanning your emails for AI training. Ain't that great?

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No gmail here, I pay for my email service, now Tutamail, formerly Protonmail. Both good, I like the Tuta interface better.

As you no doubt suspect, I don't know enough about AI to know details of how it generates new code. I thought the process was more a matter of working from principles than simply copying someone elses code. If the latter, as you mention, the patent lawsuits should be very interesting. Most coding, even absent obvious random typos or the like, may be sufficiently identifiable that it may prove surprisingly easy to defend in court.

As you do, I expect the current hype to collapse, but sadly I suspect that the tech will still have massive impacts on the workplace in the long run. Not to mention the environment. :pighug:
 
:crying: i was trying in vain to reply to ur post, but i'd type a single word, then get the oopz msg....type another word, get the oopz....it lasted for the whole damn sentence :rofl: then i got the page won't load & that was all she wrote:face:BUT -> i had smileyz :biggrin: ppp
Time for u to upgrade to this millennium then! ;) :pighug::crying:

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