I just got on the wagon and now know why it’s overpacked. Lol. It’s as good as they say. Im hooked for life. Beautiful plants by the way. Heisenberg looks fantastic and boy I’m glad I ordered a bunch. Hoping they r good for pain relief.Yes, I’ve been a customer and fan since Mephisto opened for business. I just leave my plants do their thing, no training, topping,fimming.