i started these and grew for 3yrs in soil,10 liter pots, 600w hps and hydro, will stretch to 4 ft mosr some 2 some more, quite alot of side branching and bud spread, and as they are heavy on the indica side they do smell quite alot when flowering, quite skunky, hope this helps! will yield up to 1/1/2 oz indoors in this way, possibly 2 on a good one, 3/4-1 on the runts. nutes can be started bout 2nd week light, and once established they really will take alot of abuse, ive grown mid winter uk, left a week with no watering, all were fine, in fact the slight stress probably made them better in my opinion!