well...stayed in Michigan for way too long...the harvest from the 12/12 dried too much...my red poison is so little,and shriveled, and yellow...my 3 photos training was offset but they are huge and started getting more tying n bending soon as I walked through the door...I had 3 more that sprouted the day I left that are shriveled and ugly now...went to Michigan for a new birth (in laws) lasted way longer and costed way more than expected...