New Grower ph?

[Iheartmj]

I have a 4 week old girl in MG soil. My water ph is 6.0 right out of the tap, after I add the nuets it shoots up to 8.0, I add ph down to the test tube but I never see a change in the ph. Can you tell me what I'm doing wrong?

 

[Mr.Sinsemilla]

well first and foremost i would never reccomend using mg soil...it has time release nutrients in the soil wich releses nurients over time. that with the nutrients your allready using and chances sre youre gonna burn your plants ....imo i would do a transplant into new soil and flush it while its eairly. itll save you from a lot of problems later on....but with the p.h issues idk thats a astumper ...question are you adding the p.h down to the test tube or the actual water....id try using something diffrent for my p.h down and test it again...hope it helpz

 

[Iheartmj]

well first and foremost i would never reccomend using mg soil...it has time release nutrients in the soil wich releses nurients over time. that with the nutrients your allready using and chances sre youre gonna burn your plants ....imo i would do a transplant into new soil and flush it while its eairly. itll save you from a lot of problems later on....but with the p.h issues idk thats a astumper ...question are you adding the p.h down to the test tube or the actual water....id try using something diffrent for my p.h down and test it again...hope it helpz

Hi Mr S, thanks for the reply. I'm on a very tight budget and cannot afford dif soil, I bought mg b4 I read how bad it was. She seems to be growing ok, Jan25 she is 5 wks, 9" tall, 13" width, dont know the strain. Maybe thats where I screwing up, I add ph down to the test tube, and I prolly should be adding it to the water?

 

[namvet25]

You have to add the ph down to your water and mix it.Then take a sample and test it.

 

[The Squid]

What nutes are you using that are raising your Ph. IME, most nutes lower it.
And what kind of Ph tester do you have?
I also agree on the MG soil. If it's working right now and that's all ya got, go with it.

 

[stoking]

You have to add the ph down to your water and mix it.Then take a sample and test it.

Spot on.

If your using a vial, toss the thing and get a true meter. Be sure tocalibrate it. Any grow shop will gladly show you how.

A vial i the worst thing in the world for an inexperienced grower to use. Btw, no way are you putting any ph down in test tube and it is at 8.0. Sorry not happening. Read the bottle label again, I bet its ph up you added.

As for the MG soil, I would rather grow in stones and dust from my driveway. I know your on a tight budget, but take a trip to the dollar store. They have a non time release fert that is fairly decent for our our use. Not the best but ar 3.99 a bag, you will suffer less issues.


Ps blue is up, orange down, in case label is missing.

Just my .02

 

[Eekman]

Also, HOW are you testing your ph?

Soil meter, or water tester? IF a water tester, are you testing the run off and the in going water as well, then adjusting?

I had MG soil my first go around, give it two full flushes (3x pot container size) three days apart. Then go low (1/4 strength) on your nutrients until after you have used that soil for two months. Then you can gradually increase your nutrients.

my two cents.

Eek

 

[Iheartmj]

Thanks everyone!

You have to add the ph down to your water and mix it.Then take a sample and test it.

Yeah namvet25, I finally figured that out, I dont know what I was thinking adding ph up into vial, of course yoou would add it to your water, too many psychedelics back in the day I guess.
the squid--

What nutes are you using that are raising your Ph. IME, most nutes lower it.
And what kind of Ph tester do you have?
I also agree on the MG soil. If it's working right now and that's all ya got, go with it.

I'm using FloraNova Grow & Bloom. The ph tester I'm using is General Hydroponics products with the crappy eye droper and vial method of testing. stoking suggested trying the Dollar Store for some affordable soil so I'm going to check on that.
stoking--

If your using a vial, toss the thing and get a true meter. Be sure to calibrate it. Any grow shop will gladly show you how.
A vial i the worst thing in the world for an inexperienced grower to use. Btw, no way are you putting any ph down in test tube and it is at 8.0. Sorry not happening. Read the bottle label again, I bet its ph up you added.
As for the MG soil, I would rather grow in stones and dust from my driveway. I know your on a tight budget, but take a trip to the dollar store. They have a non time release fert that is fairly decent for our our use. Not the best but ar 3.99 a bag, you will suffer less issues.
Ps blue is up, orange down, in case label is missing.

Yeah a vial is what I use, I think ph meters are a little pricey for me right now but thanks for the advice.
I've heard enough bad stuff about mg I'm going to dollar store tomorrow and check it out. :thumbs:
I dont know what I was doing with ph last night, I was running on 3 hrs sleep in 3 days so I had no bizness messing with her.
mastereekman

Also, HOW are you testing your ph?
Soil meter, or water tester? IF a water tester, are you testing the run off and the in going water as well, then adjusting?I had MG soil my first go around, give it two full flushes (3x pot container size) three days apart. Then go low (1/4 strength) on your nutrients until after you have used that soil for two months. Then you can gradually increase your nutrients.
my two cents.

Thanks for your input too. I might try your flushing method because I'm nervous about replanting in some better soil. I have been using 1/4 strength on the nutes. She is starting her 5th week, 9" tall, 13" leaf spread, other than this nute hickup I think she's doing pretty well.
I'm thinking off using FloraNova Bloom now to get her to flower early, I really really need some bud soon! Do y'all think that will work or because of the crappy soil she might not produce buds?

 

[Chester]

You'll reduce your yield by feeding bloom nutes early but you should be able to still produce bud ... sometimes it's a good idea to rush things along. As long as you plant the seed for your next plant now. ... nothing says you have to wait till one grow ends to apply what you learned to the next one ...

From past experience it's not the soil in Miracle Grow that's bad stuff ... it's the time release nutes most MG soil has in it that autos don't like ...

 

[stoking]

From past experience it's not the soil in Miracle Grow that's bad stuff ... it's the time release nutes most MG soil has in it that autos don't like ...

I dont agree with the time release nutes statement. I do agree it is not a good soil for our projects. I seen many a grower do some awesome grows using it. Corm pot, tomatoes, you name it. Matter fact back in the day it was the only thing we had for growing, that was commercial produced.

My issue with mg is two fold, 1) Never seems fail every bag I get has these little white winged bastards that love nothing better then to swarm my lights.

2) New growers not knowing the contents use the stuff, run into issues, read a forum saying flush, and compound issues.

Mg is a capable soil for growing, its the person using it needing to understand it. When issues like mag/cal or boron come, you dont flush or add major quantities of supplements to it, little goes far with this soil.
It does make an awsome soil amendment at times when on a budget, for photo's used as mothers. It gets its bad wrap from misguided growers.

I pointed to dust and rocks from my driveway though, due to the constant bugs it seems to carry.

Just last week my gf brought a few bags home for her houseplants. After an hr, I was repotting stuff I cant eat or smoke with materials from my grow. Wasn't happy but not watching bugs fly around the house. She was like well i didnt know. Sheesh.