DIY redd's new grow room - an AFN project

I worked with a buddy of mine on a grow in a 7'x7' shed and he ran a passive intake with no problems. You have more cubic feet but I still can't see you ever needing a 400cfm intake fan. Remember you want negative pressure so your carbon filter is the only way for air to leave the space. That 720 fan with speed controller should do just fine, but make sure you don't exceed the rating on the filter or it won't work as well. James had a great idea of putting the intake in the floor if you are able. And the higher the better for the exhaust. You want to mount things as high as possible to make room for raising the lights as your plants grow into monsters. :smoke:

I grow in a 3'x3' tent so I just have one camera in there:

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For a big area like yours, I'd probably have a few cameras just for the fun of it. Of course make sure your wifi is properly secured and that you're not sending the footage to the cloud or something like that. :grin:
 
Hi Red well i used some real heavy duty plastic it was blue in colour and i used heavy duty tape to seal cuts , remember you will be walking and doing lots on this flooring so it has to be tough ,also used same tape to tape from floor onto wall insulation which was this 18 or 19 ply insulation roll it was real expensive but megga good silver with thin strips of foam then another strip of silver and so on 19 times it is used for house insulation but i think it was an overkill i paid about £ 450 for it to cover ceiling and 4 walls i just used2x1 wood batten and nailed it to wooden walls ect couldnt use screws as this stuff would wrap around the screw as you tightened up lol if you go for a silver insulation you can buy silver ( aluminium tape ) great stuff megga sticky for sealing each drop of your insulation , to build a seperate veg area i used 100 mill insulation board i forget the name its called ( cellutex ) ? not sure of name ( kingspan ) ....its called a different name in different countrys i think ,if you could get your room all set up with lights ect and then test your temp / humidity with all running before you introduce plants you could tweak it to be perfect even before you install your babies ,
peace and light to you buddy

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Hi Red well i used some real heavy duty plastic it was blue in colour and i used heavy duty tape to seal cuts , remember you will be walking and doing lots on this flooring so it has to be tough ,also used same tape to tape from floor onto wall insulation which was this 18 or 19 ply insulation roll it was real expensive but megga good silver with thin strips of foam then another strip of silver and so on 19 times it is used for house insulation but i think it was an overkill i paid about £ 450 for it to cover ceiling and 4 walls i just used2x1 wood batten and nailed it to wooden walls ect couldnt use screws as this stuff would wrap around the screw as you tightened up lol if you go for a silver insulation you can buy silver ( aluminium tape ) great stuff megga sticky for sealing each drop of your insulation , to build a seperate veg area i used 100 mill insulation board i forget the name its called ( cellutex ) ? not sure of name ( kingspan ) ....its called a different name in different countrys i think ,if you could get your room all set up with lights ect and then test your temp / humidity with all running before you introduce plants you could tweak it to be perfect even before you install your babies ,
peace and light to you buddy
 
The shed looks great. As far as dealing with the summer heat issues in the shed, ask yourself "Do I really need to grow all year long?".
Surely you would have ample medicine by growing 6-8 months a year. How many pounds do you need a year for yourself?

If it is for profit, then be careful you don't spend time in jail later.
 
Red , you can put your fan anywhere in room ( i just hung my fan on electrical wire to stop vibrations ) you can run ducting tube the size of your fan to the highest point and leave the fan anywhere as long as the ducting open end is in the highest point and at opposite end from your intake , my egsaust went into a drainage pipe which we had running into the houses sewerage system so that it ended coming out 200 metres away from the grow garage and went through carbon filter and the stinky sewerage system before coming out of the stink pipe which lets out nast smells from drains , one other thing when you do get lights ect running go out in middle of night when its really quiet and just listen to see if you are making any vibrations or hums , Andy,s camera idea is a brilliant one and it made me giggle thinking about you broadcasting the pictures of your grow room to everyone with bluetooth down your street ....hahahaha !!!!

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Red , you can put your fan anywhere in room ( i just hung my fan on electrical wire to stop vibrations ) you can run ducting tube the size of your fan to the highest point and leave the fan anywhere as long as the ducting open end is in the highest point and at opposite end from your intake , my egsaust went into a drainage pipe which we had running into the houses sewerage system so that it ended coming out 200 metres away from the grow garage and went through carbon filter and the stinky sewerage system before coming out of the stink pipe which lets out nast smells from drains , one other thing when you do get lights ect running go out in middle of night when its really quiet and just listen to see if you are making any vibrations or hums , Andy,s camera idea is a brilliant one and it made me giggle thinking about you broadcasting the pictures of your grow room to everyone with bluetooth down your street ....hahahaha !!!!
 
I worked with a buddy of mine on a grow in a 7'x7' shed and he ran a passive intake with no problems. You have more cubic feet but I still can't see you ever needing a 400cfm intake fan. Remember you want negative pressure so your carbon filter is the only way for air to leave the space. That 720 fan with speed controller should do just fine, but make sure you don't exceed the rating on the filter or it won't work as well. James had a great idea of putting the intake in the floor if you are able. And the higher the better for the exhaust. You want to mount things as high as possible to make room for raising the lights as your plants grow into monsters. :smoke:

I grow in a 3'x3' tent so I just have one camera in there:

andybotwin-albums-ab-picture362614-tent.jpg


For a big area like yours, I'd probably have a few cameras just for the fun of it. Of course make sure your wifi is properly secured and that you're not sending the footage to the cloud or something like that. :grin:
Of course yes the passive intake! Thank you both James and AB because I'm up on runners underneath, two passives or so would be very nice!
I'm really liking that option honestly, it will most likely be what i go with

Hi Red well i used some real heavy duty plastic it was blue in colour and i used heavy duty tape to seal cuts , remember you will be walking and doing lots on this flooring so it has to be tough ,also used same tape to tape from floor onto wall insulation which was this 18 or 19 ply insulation roll it was real expensive but megga good silver with thin strips of foam then another strip of silver and so on 19 times it is used for house insulation but i think it was an overkill i paid about £ 450 for it to cover ceiling and 4 walls i just used2x1 wood batten and nailed it to wooden walls ect couldnt use screws as this stuff would wrap around the screw as you tightened up lol if you go for a silver insulation you can buy silver ( aluminium tape ) great stuff megga sticky for sealing each drop of your insulation , to build a seperate veg area i used 100 mill insulation board i forget the name its called ( cellutex ) ? not sure of name ( kingspan ) ....its called a different name in different countrys i think ,if you could get your room all set up with lights ect and then test your temp / humidity with all running before you introduce plants you could tweak it to be perfect even before you install your babies ,
peace and light to you buddy
Roger that my man, i'll make sure to get my environment down before any gals call it home. We have something similar to that reflective foam board that is very lightweight that I should look at while I'm at the hardware store-
it already has reflective covering and all!

The shed looks great. As far as dealing with the summer heat issues in the shed, ask yourself "Do I really need to grow all year long?".
Surely you would have ample medicine by growing 6-8 months a year. How many pounds do you need a year for yourself?

If it is for profit, then be careful you don't spend time in jail later.
Thank you Dingo very good points! Remember I'll also be sharing the room with large veggies such as peppers, zucchini, and tomatoes:grin:
Last week I made two batches of infused coconut oil & beeswax salve for my uncle's neck and back as well as an old friend's father's back,
and a batch of edible brownies for one This is a great point though, even for electricity costs because based on needs I might not need to grow
from those hot months coming up! I could see this as being very ambitious for sure, I just had to get out of the 5' cramped, zero temp/hum control room i'm
currently trapped in haha. The salves are working though! My uncle has many back/neck cysts often that he can use as treatment for & edibles for sleep aid
:Sharing One:

Red , you can put your fan anywhere in room ( i just hung my fan on electrical wire to stop vibrations ) you can run ducting tube the size of your fan to the highest point and leave the fan anywhere as long as the ducting open end is in the highest point and at opposite end from your intake , my egsaust went into a drainage pipe which we had running into the houses sewerage system so that it ended coming out 200 metres away from the grow garage and went through carbon filter and the stinky sewerage system before coming out of the stink pipe which lets out nast smells from drains , one other thing when you do get lights ect running go out in middle of night when its really quiet and just listen to see if you are making any vibrations or hums , Andy,s camera idea is a brilliant one and it made me giggle thinking about you broadcasting the pictures of your grow room to everyone with bluetooth down your street ....hahahaha !!!!

You know I actually just saw a video where one was being suspended by rubber bungie-coords even! And with
some minor ducting adjustments.
And boy about the bluetooth haha, to have a growroom broadcast would be a nightmare!!


So here's what I'm working with I believe:
wall-mounted AC
8in 720cfm w/ speed controller and carbon filter, ducting to high point in ceiling
4 floor passive screened intake vents - will draw on diagram later with four in the floor to start
reflective walls: mylar-sided board & panda plastic with zippers for a seal on door side

What kind of plastic for your floor did you use, James? I suppose I can just worry about keeping the wood floor
dry pretty much so something like that sounds interesting

redd
 
hi Red , if your floor is airtight you could get away with leaving it but wood will become slippery , mouldy ect when it gets wet and is hard to dry out thick plastic sheeting is easy to clean and will create a sterile enviroment in between grows ect , if i remember correctly it was damp proofing for houses ... thick blue plastic sheeting which was intended for the dap proof barrier of housed im sure you would get it from a wholesalers or builders merchants maybe even ebay , second hand stuff would be fine as long as it wasnt full of holes

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hi Red , if your floor is airtight you could get away with leaving it but wood will become slippery , mouldy ect when it gets wet and is hard to dry out thick plastic sheeting is easy to clean and will create a sterile enviroment in between grows ect , if i remember correctly it was damp proofing for houses ... thick blue plastic sheeting which was intended for the dap proof barrier of housed im sure you would get it from a wholesalers or builders merchants maybe even ebay , second hand stuff would be fine as long as it wasnt full of holes
 
I'll defo go the easy cleaning route with the floor like that, thanks james!
Went back to the drawing to add more

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  • inside lines to account for thickness of the insulation/walls
  • 4 screened floor vents for passive intake, one for each "quadrent" if you will, marked by the big 'X' in the box
  • 8" inline fan w/ filter, running from the center at the top of the inside peak to the top & center of the back wall,
  • using bungees for suspension to counter any vibration
  • wall-mounted AC unit (will actually be off-center, a little to the right)
  • 5 power outlets placed for convenience of plug-in. Wanted to give the AC its own too anyways
  • panda film behind hinged doors, zipper attached for seal

And some further concerns:

-How big should each intake be? I made them visible by drawing them on scale to [6" x 6"] or [15cm x 15cm], but are
those sizes and quantity adequate enough to supply the correct air intake?

-I have drawn the outtake duct so that I don't have any bends/curves to try and provide a more streamline flow. I am thinking
about angling the duct so the hole at least faces down. Would this cause any major issues that might impede proper pull?

Thanks again for everyone's assistance,interest, and comments so far it means a lot to me:wiggle:

redd
 
Looks great to me, redd! The only thing I remember reading about passive intakes is that you want a minimum of twice your exhaust. So four 6" vents should be sufficient, and you should probably design some adjustable flaps or sliding doors that allow you to reduce or increase air flow on each intake. You don't want to put a strain on your fan by making it pull too hard, so being able to fine tune things once you're up and running would be useful.

Angling the exhaust down will be fine, and it doesn't have to be perfectly straight - just avoid 90 degree bends. In a permanent space like yours, one trick to maximize airflow and reduce noise is to use PVC pipe instead of regular vent ducting. You could do a straight shot out of the shed with practically zero resistance.

I'm jealous of your setup and you haven't even built it yet! :grin:
 
Always liked your brain i did Andy! I've never even heard of that PVC piping tip but I've loads of it lying around
it's totally what I'll roll with. Flaps/slides/hoods over vents is genius too, and good to know the sizes should work nice

Haha it's still only the thinking stage but thank you and I, too, know that I am fortunate for having the opportunity.
So glad to have ya around tossing your experience in friend it's helped more than you'd know when it comes to keeping me from
getting foggy or distracted while doing research or thinking something up!
 
I'm quite surprised nobody has mentioned installing a few 250w solar panels on your roof? Help cut costs on power and will naturally reduce temps by a few degrees from the shaded air barrier in between the panels and roof, and did I mention the energy savings? Stay on grid solar though so when the suns down your back on grid power. It's amazing how much energy the sun produces in southern cali!!!
 
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