Yea I saw that method in the edibles section maybe I will just try it that way. OK here is a cheesy smoke report. I kept waiting for the buzz, and it never came. Then I realize I have been sitting here for 10 minutes just holding the pipe. It gives me a great relaxing, very relaxing buzz. All you have to do is get up and move a little bit and it's cool you just move around and do what you want. Not a make you lazy buzz but great relaxing buzz when I come home from (that four letter word.) Ok I guess I will make room for number three. Thanks to all again for the help.