The values of Organic Nutrients

[Nuggz]

Not long ago, I was reading a PDF report on organics written by a couple of science dudes, and what they said was pretty amazing. According to them, by just using nothing but kelp meal and alfalfa meal, all 83 macro and micro nutrients needed for healthy plant growth will be available to your plants. I forgot to save the PDF file, so I can't post the article for you, but here are a couple of other articles that list all the macro and micronutrients of both items. Kelp and Alfalfa meal are pretty phenomenal stuff.


Kelp meal

http://www.growery.org/2997/Organic-Nutrients-Kelp


Alfalfa meal

http://www.marijuanagrowing.eu/tuto...greatest-thing-since-sliced-bread-t10833.html


Also, here is an excellent file found on an old AFN thread that lists all the nutrients found in various manures and organic amendments. It's very complete and an excellent reference.


https://www.autoflower.org/index.php?threads/organic-nutrient-list.10758/

 

[Dr. Frog]

I know that alfalfa and kelp are what make the General Organics line so solid. Alfalfa is like the main ingredient in their base feeds. They also use kelp in their bases, flower additive, and as a standalone additive.

I'd like to work with just the meals themselves. Thanks for the info!

 

[Eyes on Fire]

yeah all they're talking about is what Ive done a little bit on is,steeping your own nutrient/tea feed which souped up essentially is what your doing to a degree,and its effective too.ive done it a cpl times.and usually do it once every cpl of grows when i feel bad and dont wanna brew a tea.i steep a tea essentially.steep,strain feed.lol. living organic its not but a very effective method for organic it is imo

 

[Nuggz]

According to the Ag Dept. at Oregon State University, Alfalfa produces a taproot that can penetrate 23-30 feet into the soil. And that, of course, would be the reason that the meal is so loaded with essential nutrients. Just about any perennial plant (think comfrey) that is very deep rooted and penetrates past the top-soil layer would likely be a significant source of macro and trace minerals. Leaves from deciduous trees are loaded in all the minerals as well.

I can't wait until they FINALLY lift the utterly ridiculous ban on growing hemp, and most farmers can't either. Of all the annual plants, hemp roots grow the deepest and farmers with severely depleted top soils are very anxious to put hemp into their crop rotation program. Industrial hemp plants are grown very close together, so it shades out any and all weeds and helps to break the cycle of annual weeds growing on farm land. Hemp put in a crop rotation on soil where vegetables are also grown would help remineralize the soil which would result in veggies that are much more healthy for us. Kenaf is another annual plant with very deep roots, but it usually only grows well in the South.

Marijuana growers use things like Azomite and glacial rock dust to make sure our girls get all their minerals, but that stuff is way too expensive for most farmers to use.

Basically, if you grind up just about any deep-rooted plant or tree leaves down to a powder or meal and use that in organic soil mixes and teas, they'd be a significant source of nutrients.

 

[dankstyle J]

Nice this is the stuff I am into great info

 

[TimeTraveler]

Agree with you completely about the need to legalize hemp growing. The situation in the US defies all logic. It's legal to import hemp and use it as a fiber, but not legal to grow it? The argument given is that marijuana plants could be hidden in a field of hemp, which just sounds asinine. Really? The LAST place on earth I'm going to try and hide my grow in is the big, easily spotted field FULL of plants that look just like pot, which are on record with the authorities (as the farmer is going to have to let people know they're growing hemp, which should make them a prime target for periodic investigation for this very reason).

No, far better to just keep growing less effective, water-wasting textiles and fibers and pissing away money importing the finished product instead of growing it ourselves.

 

[Nuggz]

I've just recently learned that it was actually the DuPont family that led the battle to make hemp illegal!


" Let me draw you a picture of this tangled web of entwined interests and back-door deals.

The first Director of the Federal Bureau of Narcotics, Harry Anslinger, was in office from 1930 to 1962. He had family ties to U.S. Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon, the richest man in America at the time. And Mellon had investment ties with DuPont, an American chemical giant.

The death of U.S. hemp can be traced all the way back to DuPont.

In 1935, the company invented nylon, a fiber to which hemp was a leading competitor. Two years later, amid a nationwide media barrage led by Anslinger, marijuana — and hemp — was attacked.

Coincidence? I think not."

(Source: http://thesovereigninvestor.com/sovereign-living/hemp-wonder-plant-big-government-denying-you/ )


The whole thing makes me wonder if the drug issue wasn't just a ploy to cover-up the fact that one of the major leaders of the military/industrial complex felt threatened by the competition that hemp was evidently giving to the DuPont invention of nylon.

 

[dankstyle J]

I heard it was also because jazz musicians smoked marijuana and the squares in power didn't like people of color or herb

 

[Dr. Frog]

Oh man, can't get started on the hemp prohibition, just wiped the foam from my mouth at seeing all this Trump circus business...

At any rate, I think molasses deserves a mention as a great organic fertilizer/additive.

It's in a similar camp as the deep rooting plants, but instead of being ground up plant matter, it's concentrated sap or "plant blood" after most of the sugar has been extracted. Still sweet enough to feed microbes, while containing plenty of minerals. I like to think that the sugarcane plants have excavated the minerals and put them together in useful forms and proportions. So when one uses molasses, it's like giving the minerals from another plant that has already assimilated them... a sort of "blood transfusion", lol.

 

[Nuggz]

@ Dank - Hmmmm...that's odd. I actually like jazz musicians, marijuana and the folks that make good music and toke on.

And Frog? I think you are right on! If anyone has convinced me that molasses is an admirable organic nutrient, it's been Eyes on Fire! His grows are awesome. There are also a number of videos on Youtube extolling the virtues of molasses for making your bud ohhhh so frosty. I'm a believer!