Too much nitrogen? clawing plant

[khero]

Nirvana northern lights, leaves feel papery and new leaves are twisting?
Just the front plant

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

When did this start? How much of what are you feeding, and how often. What is the soil pH?

 

[khero]

When did this start? How much of what are you feeding, and how often. What is the soil pH?

Feeding it coco coir a+b, bat guano, and root nectar in a coco medium daily. have no means to test the soil ph and has been happening since it poped out of soil

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

Feeding it coco coir a+b, bat guano, and root nectar in a coco medium daily.

What's the analysis on the bottles, (4-8-6, etc?), and at what rate? Is this a coco grow or soil? Just double checking, khero.
And lastly, what's your water schedule like? I don't see a drain pan underneath her, and some very dry surface spots.
I ask all this because it could be N tox, or it could be a salt build up, or both.

 

[khero]

What's the analysis on the bottles, (4-8-6, etc?), and at what rate? Is this a coco grow or soil? Just double checking, khero.
And lastly, what's your water schedule like? I don't see a drain pan underneath her, and some very dry surface spots.
I ask all this because it could be N tox, or it could be a salt build up, or both.

Coco A = 1 - 4 - 2 (20ml per 8 litre)
Coco B = 3.25 - 0 - 0.5 (20ml per 8 litre)
Root Nectar = 0.12 - 0.12 - 0.25 (10ml per 8 litre)
Bat guano = ? (40ml per 8 litre)

Coco coir medium

feed daily as top soil gets dry
also one part of the plant is very saggy/moist almost dead not sure what it is
EDIT: saggy part the stem had snapped just before the leaves hopefully it doesnt stunt the auto too much

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

Thanks for the info, khero. I'm not seeing the severe N tox on your tips so much, but that pale twisting new grow is a very common sign. Depending on what guano your using, the N value could be as high as 10+, and I'm not sure what percentage of that is going to be ammoniacal vs nitrate.
I'm thinking too much N, and a salt build up from your watering program. I always shoot for about 10% run off when I water. That gives a good deep soak and helps pull some of the salts out of your root zone. If you water too light and too often, it can also "suffocate" your roots and lead to fungal attacks.
For now, no more feeding, just a good watering with 25% run off (eyeball it, but for a gallon you should have a quart in your drain pan).
You have to have a means to measure your pH! Echo 2 pens are god for your mix, Accurate 8"s are getting great reviews for testing soil pH.
I'm a Dirt Bunny, so I'll kick this up to the coco gurus and see if they recommend a full flush, and maybe get you on a different feed/water schedule.
Hang in there, Friend!

 

[khero]

Thanks for the info, khero. I'm not seeing the severe N tox on your tips so much, but that pale twisting new grow is a very common sign. Depending on what guano your using, the N value could be as high as 10+, and I'm not sure what percentage of that is going to be ammoniacal vs nitrate.
I'm thinking too much N, and a salt build up from your watering program. I always shoot for about 10% run off when I water. That gives a good deep soak and helps pull some of the salts out of your root zone. If you water too light and too often, it can also "suffocate" your roots and lead to fungal attacks.
For now, no more feeding, just a good watering with 25% run off (eyeball it, but for a gallon you should have a quart in your drain pan).
You have to have a means to measure your pH! Echo 2 pens are god for your mix, Accurate 8"s are getting great reviews for testing soil pH.
I'm a Dirt Bunny, so I'll kick this up to the coco gurus and see if they recommend a full flush, and maybe get you on a different feed/water schedule.
Hang in there, Friend! [emoji14]eace:

Hey, thanks for all the effort you are putting in, really appreciate it, I also noticed some orange spots on the bigger fan leaves but didn't have time to get a picture before work, I have no drip pan under the auto and its just a 7gal smartpot I think have been giving them about 500-700ml of feed each but might water it down a bit after a couple days of flush but you recommend a bigger feeding less frequently ?

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

I prefer to feed light with every watering. A seven gallon pot depending on RH and temps and plant size may only get watered every 3 or 4 days-smart pots do dry out fairly quick. Find a drip pan or pans that will fit your pots, and put a wire rack or something under the smart pot that will keep it above the run off. If you run into high RH issues, you may have to use a sponge or little hand pump to get the excess water out of the room.
When you start to feed again, cut the bat poo by 3/4, and let it steep in pH'ed water for a day or two before you use it (make a "tea"), then add your nutes to that.
I've put the word out, so a coco Puff Daddy should be here soon.
If a pH meter is out of reach right now, one of those drop kits will do the trick. They're hard to read, but will at least get you in the ballpark.
,
Red

 

[khero]

I prefer to feed light with every watering. A seven gallon pot depending on RH and temps and plant size may only get watered every 3 or 4 days-smart pots do dry out fairly quick. Find a drip pan or pans that will fit your pots, and put a wire rack or something under the smart pot that will keep it above the run off. If you run into high RH issues, you may have to use a sponge or little hand pump to get the excess water out of the room.
When you start to feed again, cut the bat poo by 3/4, and let it steep in pH'ed water for a day or two before you use it (make a "tea"), then add your nutes to that.
I've put the word out, so a coco Puff Daddy should be here soon.
If a pH meter is out of reach right now, one of those drop kits will do the trick. They're hard to read, but will at least get you in the ballpark.
[emoji14]eace:,
Red

Puff Daddy haha [emoji1]

I got myself a cheap pH pen for now and I'll grab some drip trays after work, should I worry about the orange spots for now?

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

I got myself a cheap pH pen for now and I'll grab some drip trays after work, should I worry about the orange spots for now?

A cheap pen is light years above where I started Can you get some pics up of the spots? A close up, and a full plant shot?