New Grower Trapper's Scrimmage Grow (Semi-Micro)

[Trapper]

So, Quick question/Confirmation.....

If you look at these pics, the smallest leaves that emit from the bud area itself and the immediate vicinity are darker
and curling under like eagle or hawk talons.

I have seen other plants do this, I've seen some other Dark Devils do this (R.Redneck's being a perfect example)

I'm led to believe that this isn't a deficiency or an overabundance of nutrients or a pH or general health issue, but that this is a genetic trait of this particular phenotype.....

Can anyone with experience shed light on this situation?







Thanks in advance for any input! Cheers!

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

Hey, Trapper.
My SDH did that from the get go, and I do believe it was genetics (my wonderful, twisted little Freak:xlaugh. I don't think its very common, though, especially to start showing at this point.
Typically, it's a sign of too much N.
What's your feed schedule looking like right now? How much and how often?

 

[Trapper]

Hey, Trapper.
My SDH did that from the get go, and I do believe it was genetics (my wonderful, twisted little Freak:xlaugh. I don't think its very common, though, especially to start showing at this point.
Typically, it's a sign of too much N.
What's your feed schedule looking like right now? How much and how often?

I noticed it the most on the last "alive" shots of your Dark Devil main cola...

My feed is not N heavy...only N is in the Equilibrium Cal/Mag and the Tiger Bloom

I'm running Big Bloom (.01-.3-.7)
Tiger Bloom (2-8-4)
Equilibrium (1-1-2)

I've cut the Grow Big out a while back.

I'm running generally 1/4 strength across the board. Every other feeding - Span of 40 hours between feedings - 2200-2300ml with about 15-20% run-off.
I'm on the 4th feeding at these times and volumes...before I was watering less volume but more frequently....1400-1600ml daily 24 hour intervals.

Thanks for looking in!

EDIT: I've done some other searching and reading and I have found chatter that supports the idea that it is a genetic characteristic of some Sativa-dom phenos
which this girl certainly seems to be...

 

[Renaissance Redneck]

It may be just what they do, then, Trapper. :dunno:
I was really pushing those DD's at the end, doing that side by side, so I just figured it was a feed issue.
I think GoAuto6 grew some out... ya might want to ask him.
Personally, I'm thinking it's no big deal.
Check out this grow: https://www.autoflower.org/f142/[thor]-dark-devil-sweet-seeds-soil-28167-2.html, post #33.
Off to bed, Brother, have a good night!

 

[Trapper]

Thanks man, I certainly don't want to seem like I'm pushing for a particular assessment/diagnosis....I think I'm just hoping it's normal to the pheno.

Night, man!

Wow...good link on N clawing. Seems like some that exhibit full health elsewhere are just experiencing either pheno-based or mild N claw and others
are experiencing full blown N claw to all the leaves. Hopefully, if I'm careful and make sure to continue dialing it back, it looks like it's a non-issue

You know, come to think of it though, I have been running the Cal/Mag every time though...nutes or not. I may back off the Cal/Mag a bit too.
I certainly am not experiencing any Cal/Mag deficiencies at the moment, just been using it preventatively. hmmmmm....

PPS: The Pawn is getting the same feed (albeit smaller volumes) and not clawing at all....hmmmmmm2X......

 

[Trapper]

I'm going to proceed in a manner consistent with N toxicity for a couple feeds...

Last feed was large (2300ml) and had no tiger, only Big Bloom and Cal/Mag...

Tomorrow night is the next feed and I will do only Big Bloom, Molasses and a super small amount of Beastie Bloomz (0-50-30)

I figure if the Cal/Mag (1-1-2) has been over used and I AM experiencing N toxicity, then cutting it out (along with No Tiger Bloom) and augmenting with molasses will help level out the N

If it ISN'T N toxicity, I'll still have most of my bases covered as to avoid any other deficiencies...

Play it like this for a couple cycles and see if the clawing subsides. (With those nutes only every other feed)

The only x-factor will be whether or not I experience N deficiency as a result of pulling most of the N out...if so, I'll re-introduce the Cal/Mag (1-1-2) and go from there.

 

[medi]

Hope it gets worked out Trap! Flowers are still looking good.

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Hope it gets worked out Trap! Flowers are still looking good.

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Hope it gets worked out Trap! Flowers are still looking good.

 

[Toddzilla]

Just starting some DD myself outside got 4 fem started they just popped out of soil.I would like to know if the company is correct on production and taste and stuff.How did your DD test work out with the LED lighting

 

[n00b]

Let's make sure I successfully get it to the finish line We'll see how she looks in 4 weeks...(man, I can't wait)

You said it brother. I'm learning Shaolin Monk patience with these plants lol.

 

[BobbyGrow]

My LA Confi photo plant does the same. I think its the phenotype. I got the boring but resy green hawk claw buds.