Vegetarian soil mix help please

[Bromeo]

Hey organics gurus. I need a little help please. I'm working on making a vegetarian "super soil" but not vegan. Processed material is fine but a major reduction of animal product or byproduct. Just for personal reasons. So no guanos, bone meals or blood meals, fish product or bog material. Processed materials like rock and mineral dusts, lime, ash, etc are fine.

Where im a little confused is material high in P. I've read tons of charts and can't find but a few materials higher in P. One is cantaloupe rind (ash). How is the ash from it used? Does it have to be composted first?

What are some other materials I can use that are high in P? I would like to stick to locally avelable items and DIY such things.

Can anyone please help me in my mission?

 

[skrewg314]

Cottonseed meal is a decent one, but off the top of my head Im drawing a blank for any others that you havent listed. Ive got alot of this shit written down at home. If I remember, ill thumb through my notes and post others up for you when I get home bud

 

[Bromeo]

Hey I found one. Cucumber skin ash. 0-11.28-27.2 but again how does one use that ash? Compost it? Brew it? Direct to soil and let cook?

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Do you have a compost heap that is producing a quality compost?

Are you opposed to vermicompost?

I would not refer to rock dusts as processed. They are mined and ground into a fine powder, that's it, no heat or chemical synthesis.

 

[Bromeo]

I guess I should specify a little. I'm not 100% vegetarian. I just don't think anything should have to die for me to get my meds. We live a grow it, catch it, raise it or hunt it kind of life as best we can realistically. It can be very challenging to do with five kids but we try.

@kilgore trout. No I'm not opposed to vermicompost. Just not very educated on it yet. Yes I do compost but on a small scale(like my grows) . Composting is a family a air around here. We have a sphere composter. The kids and I add material and we roll it around the yard. We add a large variety of raw kitchen scrap, choped dried corn stalks(they get to run em over with the lawn mower), herbs/weeds that the older kids identify and when no one is looking I add my used coco roots and all. We also slow compost all our grass clippings and leaves. Its all used in our raised bed gardens. Urban dwelling at its finest. I have yet to have tried any of it on my grows.

The kids want one of those worm towers but I don't know how well one would do with our cold winters.

 

[Bromeo]

Lil bump.

 

[Balarama]

Maybe a strange sounding advice, but consider synthetic nutes.

 

[Bromeo]

Maybe a strange sounding advice, but consider synthetic nutes.

I'm the synthetics guy trying to go more organic. Since you mentioned it however most "synthetics" contain animal product as well. Just processed in a different way.

 

[Balarama]

Alright then, I thought you were trying not to use synthetics, my bad.

If I may add an interesting fact, there is a very high probability that most(if not all) atoms in all plant material of this planet was at least once part of an animal organism(and vice versa). I see it being a huge recycling machine, atom exchanging processes in which "plants" and "animals" are just temporary labels we put on matter as we see it in our very short lifespans(as temporary organisms).

However, good luck with your experiment, it's always interesting to see someone try new things!
:karma Cloud:

 

[Bromeo]

Alright then, I thought you were trying not to use synthetics, my bad.

If I may add an interesting fact, there is a very high probability that most(if not all) atoms in all plant material of this planet was at least once part of an animal organism(and vice versa). I see it being a huge recycling machine, atom exchanging processes in which "plants" and "animals" are just temporary labels we put on matter as we see it in our very short lifespans(as temporary organisms).

However, good luck with your experiment, it's always interesting to see someone try new things!
:karma Cloud:

Thats a nice guilt free way to think of things. Its not as easy for me. Another thought. Fact, bone mean comes from cattle. Cattle thats force fed corn. Corn that took tons of diesel to grow. Diesel that came from crude oil. Crude oil that we have to war over....

Fact, bats die during guano collection. Bats that are a very important part of a delicate eco system. So i could grow meds? Not good karma.