New Grower what's with these leaves?

[turtle360]

im no admin but i was thinking have you gone from veg feed to bloom feed then gone back to veg feed ?
that can incure major curling

No, I didn't. I did a mix last time.

 

[ramone515]

Are these values per gallon ? I think you are feeding them too much, and possibly too early too. Autoflowers need less nutes than regular plants, so you need to start with an 1/4 dosage and go up from there. And I also believe you went to a 1:1 veg:bloom ratio too soon. I fed my NL veg nutes until the end of week 6.

Plus, you really need to get the pH back into range, but slowly. Try to find some powdered Dolomite lime to add to the soil, also you might need to raise your feeding pH a bit, to 7.0.

 

[turtle360]

Use the 5 ml chart.I use the same nutes but I add additional cal/mag at 5 weeks because I feel there cal is kinda low.Iwent to the dosage on the back of the bottle also and they seen to handle it.

Thanks. I just did a water only in this case till I get my head straightened out, with a tsp CalMag. It went in at 6.8 with no adjustment after just the water and CalMag. It ran off 5.4. The ppm out was 600 for 3 plants, 700 for the NL3.

Now, I just got a reading off my Accurate 8 ph meter. 5.5, the same as my runoff. This of course flies in the face of the faction that preaches that the runoff is roughly halfway between the water in and the soil ph, but.... that's what the meter says.

Anyway, a little lime might be in order? I can't find anyone with lime from Dolomite. Should I use a powdered lime for faster results? Or what should I get?

 

[Muddy]

I trust the readings from the Accurate 8 a lot more than run off. So at 5.5 you are in a nutrient lock out situation and giving more nutes won't help and can actually make the situation worse. At this point I would recommend you give them a good flush to remove the excess nutrients. Three times your pot size with plain water pHed to 6.5. Before running the last gallon through the pots, mix some dolomite lime into the top layer of soil at the rate of 1 tablespoon per gallon of soil mix. Also add some very light nutes to that last gallon. Dolomite is slow acting so don't expect to see the pH rise for about 2 weeks.

Dolomite is also known as garden lime. Hydrated lime can also be used in small quantities and is faster acting. No more than 1 tablespoon per gallon of feed. Too much can be caustic and cause root damage.

 

[turtle360]

Are these values per gallon ? I think you are feeding them too much, and possibly too early too. Autoflowers need less nutes than regular plants, so you need to start with an 1/4 dosage and go up from there. And I also believe you went to a 1:1 veg:bloom ratio too soon. I fed my NL veg nutes until the end of week 6.

Plus, you really need to get the pH back into range, but slowly. Try to find some powdered Dolomite lime to add to the soil, also you might need to raise your feeding pH a bit, to 7.0.

Thanks. Too early and too much by what measures? 5 ml? If it were watered down you could give 5 TB. As per my disclosure on pg 1 this thread the Mad Scientist at Dynagro, he who designed the product, assured me to follow the feeding schedule. And, yes, I gave him my best "But you know autos like to eat lightly" routine. He said he was well aware. And namvet25 posted, "Use the 5 ml chart.I use the same nutes but I add additional cal/mag at 5 weeks because I feel there cal is kinda low.I went to the dosage on the back of the bottle also and they seen to handle it." But you may well be right most assuredly.

And I found some Dolomite lime. Growmore Research Farms brand. A 4 lb box. I shook the box. Doesn't sound powdered, more like pellets.

 

[turtle360]

I trust the readings from the Accurate 8 a lot more than run off. So at 5.5 you are in a nutrient lock out situation and giving more nutes won't help and can actually make the situation worse. At this point I would recommend you give them a good flush to remove the excess nutrients. Three times your pot size with plain water pHed to 6.5. Before running the last gallon through the pots, mix some dolomite lime into the top layer of soil at the rate of 1 tablespoon per gallon of soil mix. Also add some very light nutes to that last gallon. Dolomite is slow acting so don't expect to see the pH rise for about 2 weeks.

Dolomite is also known as garden lime. Hydrated lime can also be used in small quantities and is faster acting. No more than 1 tablespoon per gallon of feed. Too much can be caustic and cause root damage.

Ok, I think I got it.The Dolomite lime I have is the consistency of rock salt. I have 3 gallon pots, soil not to the top, so I'm scratching in almost 3 tablespoons into the top layer of what will be wet soil.? I'm going to add 2 tsp of Big Bloom as well.

 

[turtle360]

Use the 5 ml chart.I use the same nutes but I add additional cal/mag at 5 weeks because I feel there cal is kinda low.Iwent to the dosage on the back of the bottle also and they seen to handle it.

Do you use their Protekt?

 

[Muddy]

Ok, I think I got it.The Dolomite lime I have is the consistency of rock salt. I have 3 gallon pots, soil not to the top, so I'm scratching in almost 3 tablespoons into the top layer of what will be wet soil.? I'm going to add 2 tsp of Big Bloom as well.

Try and crush it up into as fine a powder as you can. It's best to add it when the soil is dry so you can water it in afterwards. The watering will help get it deeper into the pots. Do not add any more nutrients unless you've flushed them as I recommended in post #14. Because you're in nutrient lockout the plants haven't been able to absorb the nutrients that are already in the soil. Overfeeding them while in lockout can create a whole new set of issues.

 

[turtle360]

Try and crush it up into as fine a powder as you can. It's best to add it when the soil is dry so you can water it in afterwards. The watering will help get it deeper into the pots. Do not add any more nutrients unless you've flushed them as I recommended in post #14. Because you're in nutrient lockout the plants haven't been able to absorb the nutrients that are already in the soil. Overfeeding them while in lockout can create a whole new set of issues.

I flushed them yesterday with 2 gallons each water with Sledgehammer and a little Big Bloom.

 

[Teacher]

mr muddy if he is feeding in at 6.6 and running out at 5.6 isn't his feeding level at the roots 6.1 according to the formula ive seen on this site and used myself on at least 6 grows and not 4.6 or is the stuff im growing and smoking better than even I know?