NEWS Why is pot banned? Good read!

Howdy eggmansky

I recommend reading and watching--The Emperor Wears No Clothes--excellent overview of the propaganda.

Cannabis prohibition with fictional facts has to be the most successful propaganda program--ever. To think--Anslinger personally still exerts these crazy notions from the...

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As a hack history buff, I knew most of what you related...
However, I had no idea kids had their own bars!!! My family owned a saloon on the South side of Chicago from the '30's thru the 80's. Oh the stories!

Sure, if the % of alcohol had been REGULATED early on, it's possible the outcome may have been different...somehow I don't think so...as the same REGULATORS (US Govt) have been and will probably always be easily corruptible...
 
eggmansky--my centuries in comment above are off. I am going to find the book and give the correct periods.

Working on it now..
 
I want to hear some of your old Chicago stories--I dig old time mafia stuff. That would have been a period of Irish and Italian gangsters.

If you get a chance watch PBS--A Nation of Drunkards. Distilled spirits were around early on and temperance movements came and went. The turning point was alcohol % changes in ciders/beers etc. Fantastic documentary.

http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/watch-video/

The book--Low Life by Luc Sante. Great historical view of how much vice in NYC.

Page 311: "There was very little that adult gangsters practiced or enjoyed that child gangsters did not contrive to reproduce on their own scale. There were boys' saloons, with three-cent whiskies and little girls in back rooms, and there were children's gambling houses, in which tots could bilk other tots at the usual menu of faro, policy and dice games." (author states life expectancy was so low many children did not survive much past twenties etc.)

**The book has other tid bits scattered through out. Gangs along with children were part and parcel of economic/political life in NYC and other major cities. Little schooling and forced work at very tender ages. Tough existence.

Deleted info about distilled spirits for they were abused early on in US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavern

Colonial Americans drank a variety of distilled spirits. As the supply of distilled spirits, especially rum, increased and the price dropped, they became the drink of choice throughout the colonies.[7] In 1770 per capita consumption was 3.7 gallons of distilled spirits per year, rising to 5.2 gallons in 1830 or approximately 1.8 one-ounce shots a day for every adult white man.[8] That total does not include the beer or hard cider that colonists routinely drank in addition to rum, the most popular distilled beverage available in English America. Benjamin Franklin printed a "Drinker's Dictionary" in his Pennsylvania Gazette in 1737, listing some 228 slang terms used for drunkenness in Philadelphia.

The sheer volume of hard liquor consumption fell off, but beer grew in popularity and men developed customs and traditions based on how to behave at the tavern. By 1900 the 26 million American men over age 18 patronized 215,000 licensed taverns and probably 50,000 unlicensed (illegal) ones, or one per hundred men.[9] Twice the density could be found in working class neighborhoods. They served mostly beer; bottles were available but most drinkers went to the taverns. Probably half the American men avoided saloons, so the average consumption for actual patrons was about a half-gallon of beer per day, six days a week. In 1900, the city of Boston (with about 200,000 adult men) counted 227,000 daily saloon customers.[10]
 
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I want to hear some of your old Chicago stories--I dig old time mafia stuff. That would have been a period of Irish and Italian gangsters.

If you get a chance watch PBS--A Nation of Drunkards. Distilled spirits were around early on and temperance movements came and went. The turning point was alcohol % changes in ciders/beers etc. Fantastic documentary.

http://www.pbs.org/kenburns/prohibition/watch-video/

The book--Low Life by Luc Sante. Great historical view of how much vice in NYC.

Page 311: "There was very little that adult gangsters practiced or enjoyed that child gangsters did not contrive to reproduce on their own scale. There were boys' saloons, with three-cent whiskies and little girls in back rooms, and there were children's gambling houses, in which tots could bilk other tots at the usual menu of faro, policy and dice games." (author states life expectancy was so low many children did not survive much past twenties etc.)

**The book has other tid bits scattered through out. Gangs along with children were part and parcel of economic/political life in NYC and other major cities. Little schooling and forced work at very tender ages. Tough existence.

Deleted info about distilled spirits for they were abused early on in US. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tavern

Colonial Americans drank a variety of distilled spirits. As the supply of distilled spirits, especially rum, increased and the price dropped, they became the drink of choice throughout the colonies.[7] In 1770 per capita consumption was 3.7 gallons of distilled spirits per year, rising to 5.2 gallons in 1830 or approximately 1.8 one-ounce shots a day for every adult white man.[8] That total does not include the beer or hard cider that colonists routinely drank in addition to rum, the most popular distilled beverage available in English America. Benjamin Franklin printed a "Drinker's Dictionary" in his Pennsylvania Gazette in 1737, listing some 228 slang terms used for drunkenness in Philadelphia.

The sheer volume of hard liquor consumption fell off, but beer grew in popularity and men developed customs and traditions based on how to behave at the tavern. By 1900 the 26 million American men over age 18 patronized 215,000 licensed taverns and probably 50,000 unlicensed (illegal) ones, or one per hundred men.[9] Twice the density could be found in working class neighborhoods. They served mostly beer; bottles were available but most drinkers went to the taverns. Probably half the American men avoided saloons, so the average consumption for actual patrons was about a half-gallon of beer per day, six days a week. In 1900, the city of Boston (with about 200,000 adult men) counted 227,000 daily saloon customers.[10]


In David Hackett Fischers's "Albion's Seed", a tome regarding the 4 major 'folkways' of the immigrants from UK, low % alcohol was the ONLY safe source of water in many cases. Especially for the Scot's who tended to resettle in mountainous regions. We refer to these folk as 'Hillbillys'.
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I figured UK had its own hillbillies. Watch old Saxondale and Alan Partridge--daily. Thought--I think UK has lots of similarities with US that is a---wide range of accents/dialects.

The is right---had to be low % alcohol, otherwise, it has a diuretic effect and would not hydrate a person sufficiently.

Going to check out the book.

Cheers
 
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