Olderfart does mixed grow in Sunshine #4, autopots, DIY lights, and DIY growdrobe.

Germination results, Seedling progress

So far, I have germinated six seeds as described in the overview, five as described earlier, and one more since then. All were day one above ground in a peat plug within 72 hours of the initial soak.

Although the peat plug approach worked perfectly, I am still not completely satisfied with it. I do not trust the synthetic mesh that holds the plug together to not distort or constrict roots, and cutting the bottom off as suggested on Cocoforcannabis.com is a pain in the butt. The thinking cap is on for the next round...


November 24 update.

All girls are progressing, including the recently transplanted Northern Lights.

Here they are as a group:

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And here they are individually:


Dinamed Auto Kush CBD - this one will be a stud plant after CS reversal. Now on day 17, topped two days ago. She will be staying in the small pot to speed things up and keep her size under control. Good theory that. :biggrin:
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Seedsman Auto Strawberry Cheesecake - Also day 17, in her final pot. Also topped two days ago, and soon to be on the reservoir.
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Mephisto Auto Creme de la Chem x 3 Bears OG - Day 15, also in its final pot. Not sure about topping yet, but possible. Soon to be on reservoir. Its slightly smaller sister was binned earlier. This one is becoming quite the stinker already.
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Seedsman Auto Northern Lights - This at Day 9 is the plant I germinated to replace the stunted and distorted sister germinated earlier. She is from the third and last of the three freebie NL seeds I received with my Seedsman order. All were slow, although this one and the first one seemed healthy. I could have kept the first one, but it was in soil with gnats, so I got rid of the entire plant and pot.
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And that, peeps, is all for this update. Happy growing all. :pighug:

December 3 update

Time for an update. Here are the all current girls in a group portrait:

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Seedsman Northern Lights Auto, Day 18:

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Her first day on the reservoir is today.

Seedsman Strawberry Cheesecake Auto, Day 26:


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This is the lady that had what I figured was a Calcium issue earlier. She seems happy now that she has been on nutes for a while. I cut off the three leaves that were buggered some time ago.

Mephisto Genetics CDLCx3Bog, Day 26:

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She seems reasonably happy for now.

Dinamed CBD Kush Auto, Day 26:

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This is my stud plant that I am reversing for pollen. She has had issues for some time now that I have had a hell of a time sorting out. She was a happy camper until I removed the panty hose that was on her earlier to avoid gnats (all gone, not a single one around in weeks). Turns out that she had lots of roots embedded in the nylon, and removing it ripped all of them off. After that, she showed symptoms of overwatering, underwatering, plus some sort of nute mischief with the lower fans, (either deficiency or lockout pH is good). I suspect that all problems were precipitated by the root damage, but maybe I just screwed up the watering. At any rate, I am now watering to ~10% or so runoff, and she seems to need it close to daily given the small pot. In this photo, she was starting to sag again, and I had just watered her again. She was on ~700EC or so for the last couple fertigations, but I dialed that back to ~550EC for this and a few more to see whether there is any lockout going on. I may just have to get her on higher EC later, but figured I should dial her back first. She is on about day five of CS spraying. I spray the entire plant from above and below just before lights out.

Anyway, she is alive, and I will likely get pollen, so ugly or not, maybe she will do the job.

Dinamed CBD Kush Auto, Day 2

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This will be the mother plant for seed and some bud if I get pollen off her sister. So far, so good.

Happy growing peeps. :pighug:

Comments

Looks like you might very well have sorted it out. Watching close and rooting for the crop!
 
Looks like you might very well have sorted it out. Watching close and rooting for the crop!
Thank you kindly. If both of us keep thinking good thoughts...

I took the two problem plants out today and removed a bag of dead fans and probable larf. The thinking being that I don't have a lot of producticve fans left, so more light penetration and less energy diverted to larf might be good.

At any rate, the decision was made, so we shall see. Thanks for checking in @olegren, and good luck with your grow. :pighug:
 
FWIW, After trying all the different types of recommended germination methods none with 100%, and some where I simply damaged the seedling while transferring it, I have finally settled on a method, that sort of had me laughing to myself because it is as simple as it can possibly get. I did a lot of thinking about why people soak, and why they put it between wet tissue and so forth and my reasoning told me that perhaps I should just put an unsoaked dry seed directly into an Eazy Plug. About 2mm below the surface and cover the hole with a tiny bit of the plug torn off from a corner. Sprouts in 3 to 4 days, like clockwork.

Welp, ever since it's been a 100% success rate and I can't see any point in making it more complex. That's what I've come to anyway. My thinking was that since the Eazy Plug after it's been allowed to soak up some water, remains the perfect environment, it doesn't dry out nor can it drown the seed. And the Eazy Plug protects the new root while it establishes itself.
 
Glad you have things turned around @Olderfart . I was surprised to see EC @600 to 700 for flowering autos. Just seemed way low to me for all my auto grows as i was usually around 1200 to 1400 with a bit of leave tip burn.
 
FWIW, After trying all the different types of recommended germination methods none with 100%, and some where I simply damaged the seedling while transferring it, I have finally settled on a method, that sort of had me laughing to myself because it is as simple as it can possibly get. I did a lot of thinking about why people soak, and why they put it between wet tissue and so forth and my reasoning told me that perhaps I should just put an unsoaked dry seed directly into an Eazy Plug. About 2mm below the surface and cover the hole with a tiny bit of the plug torn off from a corner. Sprouts in 3 to 4 days, like clockwork.

Welp, ever since it's been a 100% success rate and I can't see any point in making it more complex. That's what I've come to anyway. My thinking was that since the Eazy Plug after it's been allowed to soak up some water, remains the perfect environment, it doesn't dry out nor can it drown the seed. And the Eazy Plug protects the new root while it establishes itself.
Pretty much where I am now at, although I still like an initial soak and paper towel time to allow development of the initial tap root, which quickly confirms whether a seed is good.

The only reason that I might choose a transfer cup instead is because it would allow a bit more development before transplant into the final container, and this could be done under a clear cover on my heat mat.

OTOH, it is hard to argue against how the roots on my cbd girl developed. It would be nice to see a serious comparison, but I am not set up to do it, clones and a larger grow space being minimum requirements.

Thanks for chiming in, good to hear that someone else here is thinking along the same lines. :pighug:
 
Glad you have things turned around @Olderfart . I was surprised to see EC @600 to 700 for flowering autos. Just seemed way low to me for all my auto grows as i was usually around 1200 to 1400 with a bit of leave tip burn.
Yeah, my initial feeds were too low. I am pretty sure that I was starving them for quite a while, and the damage to the two older plants was remarkable. What I think I learned from the experience, aside from the EC levels needed, is that by the time significant symptoms show up, a hell of a lot of damage has already been done, and it will take multiple days after correcting before damage stabilizes. Put another way, reading the plants is a great idea for fine tuning, but major screwups like mine are far more difficult to identify early enough to avoid significant damage.

The reason that I was keeping feed levels down in the first place is that I was concerned that the autopot/fabric pot combo does not allow runoff, and salt buildup is a definite threat. I just went too far with it, and by the time symptoms showed up, a lot of damage had been done. The fact that initial symptoms were so ambiguous did not help either.

Every grow is a learning experience... :biggrin:
 
Yeah, my initial feeds were too low. I am pretty sure that I was starving them for quite a while, and the damage to the two older plants was remarkable. What I think I learned from the experience, aside from the EC levels needed, is that by the time significant symptoms show up, a hell of a lot of damage has already been done, and it will take multiple days after correcting before damage stabilizes. Put another way, reading the plants is a great idea for fine tuning, but major screwups like mine are far more difficult to identify early enough to avoid significant damage.

The reason that I was keeping feed levels down in the first place is that I was concerned that the autopot/fabric pot combo does not allow runoff, and salt buildup is a definite threat. I just went too far with it, and by the time symptoms showed up, a lot of damage had been done. The fact that initial symptoms were so ambiguous did not help either.

Every grow is a learning experience... :biggrin:
I went through the same thing with some clones I grew a few months ago. Starved them and then they slowly made a decent recovery. Good thing mine were photoperiods and I could let them veg longer.
Onward and upward. :watering:
 
Yeah, my initial feeds were too low. I am pretty sure that I was starving them for quite a while, and the damage to the two older plants was remarkable. What I think I learned from the experience, aside from the EC levels needed, is that by the time significant symptoms show up, a hell of a lot of damage has already been done, and it will take multiple days after correcting before damage stabilizes. Put another way, reading the plants is a great idea for fine tuning, but major screwups like mine are far more difficult to identify early enough to avoid significant damage.

The reason that I was keeping feed levels down in the first place is that I was concerned that the autopot/fabric pot combo does not allow runoff, and salt buildup is a definite threat. I just went too far with it, and by the time symptoms showed up, a lot of damage had been done. The fact that initial symptoms were so ambiguous did not help either.

Every grow is a learning experience... :biggrin:
Bro you said it if your not learning your about to be bit lol great job though on the seeds they look super good and a cbd harvest also. I forget if you said but are you going to extract any to make rso or something? I really love a 1to1 thc/cbd by far wat I prefer and I found mixing a pure cbd strain with normal variety to give me the same effect. I hope to grow some cbd this year outdoors.
 
Bro you said it if your not learning your about to be bit lol great job though on the seeds they look super good and a cbd harvest also. I forget if you said but are you going to extract any to make rso or something? I really love a 1to1 thc/cbd by far wat I prefer and I found mixing a pure cbd strain with normal variety to give me the same effect. I hope to grow some cbd this year outdoors.
Yes, the whole idea of growing the pure cbd strain was to be able to combine with THC strains to play with ratios. I will do this with coconut oil extract for sure so that I can make a salve for my wife who may be able to use it for relief of joint pain, and I may just mix a bit in the grinder to see how it works with other strains in a vaporizer. I might try tincture at some point if I can ever get down to the US to pick up some everclear.

Thanks for checking in Fitzy. :pighug:
 
No worries mate, the blogs work better for the grower's record, but sadly not for the readers. Not sure what I will do for the next one. Maybe both a blog and a grow journal. It wouldn't be a lot of extra effort to throw the basics in a separate grow thread and leave the details to the blog.

Thanks for checking in @Trichome farmer. :pighug:
 
mmm, my apologiez brotato chip :toke: u actually shoulda made it into the club a long time ago, lol, but hey, i smoke weed & ur name simply got lost in the shuffle that is me brain, so...:coffee: :rolleyes2: welcome to the club! :headbang: ppp
No worries at all my friend. I just didn't bother with it earlier. Not a big deal for me one way or the other.

Anyway, thanks for the prompt response, and for all your effort helping keep AFN friendly and fun.

Cheers mate! :cheers:
 

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