100% Organic Grow.

[Eyes on Fire]

nope..lmao thats a force feeding system for plants with a simple soil or whatever.i know of them but thats about it.i personally feel its an ineffective way to grow for higher end quality along with in my eyes its not an effective eay to grow properly.but works well as its designed to do im certain as many others are.:Hookah:

 

[freedom4all]

Gotcha maybe right now the organics isn't for me I just feel so in over my head man I hope this soil mix produced some good results but I'm not sure if I'm going to be able to keep up with all the teas and stuff I'm going to continue to need in flower if what I got could get me through an entire grow that'll be awesome or if there is a simple something I can add for the bloom that'd be good too but yeah this just seems more complicated than I thought originally. I know yiu said in the long run organics is cheaper and I don't doubt that at all but I mean I have almost 200 bucks in this simple mix alone right now

 

[Eyes on Fire]

and as i said before you remind me of me when i first started.making simple mixes constantly buying organics stuff i didnt know how to properly use effectively n so on.and thats what you did. you came to me with a lot of soil that wasnt working and a while new bunch of stuff in minimal proportions and having things taken care of first off.you have to reverse or start a full proper batch instead of picking away at it. your essentially doing two steps forward one and a half steps back bro.i went that school of hardknocks for a bit myself and it sucks and gets expensive VERY VERY quickly too as your now aware of. you need inoculates and proper trace minerals as weve already discussed along with worm farm and bokashi bin and within that youll have a grow with living organics.its not tough ,patience is key and proper time needs to be taken care in learning and seeking a proper single way to grow instead of seeing something else and trying to incorporate that also..:Sharing One:its a desire to have someof the best buds not a want. you NEED to have some of the best buds,not just desire them.you have to learn it.or buy a proper ready to go few gallons of the revs mix from tlosoils. its prolly full strength id guess and you can easily work right from the bag with it and buying soil working materials over the course of your now instantly easy learning grow. or similarly decnt bagged mix.there are a few out there to give an organic grower a good properly rounded start to understanding organic cannabis:Sharing One: but we've already talked about this.ppl go that route for cost reason.its about planning:Sharing One:

 

[freedom4all]

And it's not that you're not a good teacher eyes you are amazing bro I'm just getting discouraged with over 1500 in my set up and nothing but crap plants to show for myself and I'm almost out of seed :/ so perhaps after my blues and lemon haze are done I'm Going to go back to the drawing board and Re think everything and try and fave up some money over the summer

 

[freedom4all]

My only thing with buying some from tlo is its a $250 minimum if it was 100 I could maybe swing it lol

As far as that potash bin I don't even have room for most of my fishing rods lol I'm trying to do this all in my bedroom so it's kinda a space thing too lol

I'm still thinking about the kit from build a soil and I guess yiu can get a 5 pound tga kit as well and the hydroshop down south of me has them supposedly maybe getting another 2 or 3 bags of Dr earth's and one of them kits might be the way to go this fall

 

[Dazed]

and as i said before you remind me of me when i first started.making simple mixes constantly buying organics stuff i didnt know how to properly use effectively n so on.and thats what you did. you came to me with a lot of soil that wasnt working and a while new bunch of stuff in minimal proportions and having things taken care of first off.you have to reverse or start a full proper batch instead of picking away at it. your essentially doing two steps forward one and a half steps back bro.i went that school of hardknocks for a bit myself and it sucks and gets expensive VERY VERY quickly too as your now aware of. you need inoculates and proper trace minerals as weve already discussed along with worm farm and bokashi bin and within that youll have a grow with living organics.its not tough ,patience is key and proper time needs to be taken care in learning and seeking a proper single way to grow instead of seeing something else and trying to incorporate that also..:Sharing One:its a desire to have someof the best buds not a want. you NEED to have some of the best buds,not just desire them.you have to learn it.or buy a proper ready to go few gallons of the revs mix from tlosoils. its prolly full strength id guess and you can easily work right from the bag with it and buying soil working materials over the course of your now instantly easy learning grow. or similarly decnt bagged mix.there are a few out there to give an organic grower a good properly rounded start to understanding organic cannabis:Sharing One: but we've already talked about this.ppl go that route for cost reason.its about planning:Sharing One:

And it's not that you're not a good teacher eyes you are amazing bro I'm just getting discouraged with over 1500 in my set up and nothing but crap plants to show for myself and I'm almost out of seed :/ so perhaps after my blues and lemon haze are done I'm Going to go back to the drawing board and Re think everything and try and fave up some money over the summer

Don't get discouraged bro, listen to Eyes he is right. I was the same man, a big lesson I learnt (and keep on learning) is that even slight changes can make big differences. It's a good move to take a step back and have a think, but don't see what you are doing as a waste of time. It's like learning to ride a bike bro, once you can go round the block without falling off-doesn't mean you ride with no hands lol. I totally get where you are at, I look at it this way, even my failings (not saying your failing lol) are better than any damn street weed bro and learning is the fun of it. Herbies and all the seed sites have sale sections get yourself some cheap ass seeds to practice with if you're broke and work with what you have.

 

[Eyes on Fire]

dude look brother.I tried to tell ya once my friend.Im not being an asshole or anything of the like man.just being straight with you.stop spending a dime.on anything..at ALLLLL..buy that bagged soil I told you about.its as much as a bag of Dr Earths Black bag.25 bucks US.buy two if you can swing it.50 bucksa and shipping.shipping sucks but youll not have to buy it again.three if you can really swing it.then you have you mix.its made and ready to go and with the materials you have riiight now..youll have two years of so of solid back to back to back auto grows with minimal work and youll be able to see and learn and read as you go and watch it.thats hands down will be your best teacher.your lacking several standard componets and croners cant be cut here.thats the cheapest method from scratch for a new organic grower imo.unless like I said you make a drawn out plan(just sit back and formulate is all) and attack your goal and win.but you have to attain the proper things first.that cost and a small worm farm and what you have now is all youll need short of fishies(which you can make cheap btw) and kelp liquid and your wettable powders for teas n such.simple standard pieces of gear.I just use a lot more is all but simple basic building blacks and with that worked bags of soil youll not fail.I PROMISE you this.im very familair with this recipe and know how to work it well and its a ready to use buy worth its money too.they recently changed their biz plan and did away with that 5LB pack but its still one of thee best workling organics deals out there atm. so jsut get a few bags of that is all you need to do man.

 

[freedom4all]

Haha thanks brother I guess my thing is is all these rock phosphates Azomite myco stuff all these different kinds of guano and meals and so on and so forth it's like I like simple and honestly this makes me feel like an idiot because I could tear a machine down that was 3200 parts and out It back together without instructions the first time I messed with it lol so knowing I can master stuff like that and not getting this it's driving me nuts lol

Not trying to bitch and moan it's just well yall know something new and when you try and learn something new it can be very overwhelming and that's kinda how I feel cause I mean for an example neko sempai told me molasses is your friend then I was told you gotta use epsom salts then I was told there are certain ways to apply them but then I was told to get cal mag so I got molasses epsom salts and calmag on the way but now I find out my carbon filter isn't worth a shit so I gotta get a new one of those and it's just it's like it never ends haha

 

[freedom4all]

Thanks eyes when I get another 250 bones I'll get some of that tlo soil

 

[Anthropolis]

Freedom4all, I felt over my head at first too lol. It gets easier with organics It got much easier for me when I stopped and took a deep breath for a few days and thout about a couple of these principles:

With organics, the basic idea is to feed the soil. Forget the plant for just a moment the plant can take care of itself lol. If the soil is fed pretty well, has some life in it, and is relatively fortified with the things that a plant will need, then the plant will feed itself from the soil.

It helped me to imagine a circle, or cycle, in nature. I know this sounds kinda hippie lol, but imagining a soil in nature full of life and nutrients, it's rich and ready to feed the plant life. So I thought about what a soil has in nature and tried to get close to reproducing that lol.

There's a couple thinking points to hopefully ease your mind it gets easier and more fun