65 DLI and lighting schedules

Interesting I have noticed that I do not get nutrient burn even on the tips and I let the plug get up to 2800ppm! which is like 5.6EC! I have a UV light on but tbh, I don't think it does anything. The only red are a few diodes in the xs1500pro and the whites are 6500K and 4000K so that shouldn't be a problem I would think.
Do they have foxtailing by any chance?
 
You got any work to share with us?
I culled my plants some time ago and took down my tent... No photos of them for security reasons. However, I'll return after the grow room is set up. I'm just trying to get my finances in order. It is definitely happening, I think about posting my stuff in a new forum post and will definitely quote you, Frank, when I have it up. :pass:
 
If it's bleaching, then that is about the amount of red light on your lights. More red light means a greater inclination for the leaves and/or buds to become bleached. This is well-studied. Your nutrients are probably not enough for the flower as well, my friend. The higher the light, the higher the nutrients should be. This is also well-studied.
"Bleached buds", as an expression, is a carry over from HPS days. With LED's, some grows will result in buds that have white tops. Bubgee has looked into it and, IIRC, it was Fall of 2025 that he said that the cause was a high amount of 660nm light on flowers which impacted the buds before they bloomed. Earlier there was discussion that it was a high percentage of 660 but Bugbee ran it down to a high amount of 660.

Re higher PPFD's requiring high EC - I haven't anything like that in "the research" but I'd appreciate a link. I routinely grow at 1000-1100 in ambient CO2 and have never had an EC higher than 1.6. Nutrient demand is very hard to standardize because environments vary tremendously and the EC range the comprises the "sufficiency" level is quite wide (an EC of 1 perhaps).
 
Interesting thread- I’ve just seen the effects of high DLI firsthand. My plants stretched up really high and then when I checked the DLI it was at 65 and the plants were struggling with that high DLI. You could see the light stress in them, the extreme uptake of calmag also occurred. This is documented in several books. I dropped the dli down by turning the lighting levels to 50% to get it into the 35-45 range across the tops which are not leveled.

I was keeping it at 40-45 until after flowering and then turned it up to 55 with CO2 running but had to adjust to the plants needs. The thing it once the damage is done those older leafs will not change and it’s the new sugar leaf I want to see signs of recovery in to determine success.
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