Grow Mediums A question for American Hydro growers (and some UK) ...

[steelrat]

Hello!

For some time now in the US, municipal water supplies have been treated with chloramine, a mixture of chlorine and ammonia.

Here in the UK, water companies are also starting to do this.

My water provider (Severn Trent in East Midlands) uses chloramine and they say it's no good for hydroponics.

Are there any hydro growers out there who use tap water that is treated with chloramine ?

If so, are you filtering or using it straight, do you think or know that chloramine causes problems ?

Interesting discussion from some US gardeners here (not cannabis growers) :

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/hydro/msg01160852797.html?5

My water STINKS of chloramine but my soil grows did fine.


Cheers,

steely

 

[tokaite]

High!

I read somewhere that when mixed with Molasses it helps to gas it off, I do that but am on soil ....

Peace!

 

[Roark]

Hey steelrat, I use my water right out of the tap. My first grow treated my water, in the rez with some anti chlor.....everything, made for exotic fish. However, I believe it messes with cal and mag. The town I live has pretty good water. Everything seems fine with my plants. I would rather use R/O but can't right now. Hope that helps.

 

[Bongo]

Hello!

For some time now in the US, municipal water supplies have been treated with chloramine, a mixture of chlorine and ammonia.

Here in the UK, water companies are also starting to do this.

My water provider (Severn Trent in East Midlands) uses chloramine and they say it's no good for hydroponics.

Are there any hydro growers out there who use tap water that is treated with chloramine ?

If so, are you filtering or using it straight, do you think or know that chloramine causes problems ?

Interesting discussion from some US gardeners here (not cannabis growers) :

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/hydro/msg01160852797.html?5

My water STINKS of chloramine but my soil grows did fine.


Cheers,

steely

Hi steely , not sure if chloramine will react the same way, but airstones and liquid oxy volatise the chlorine in our water. Either that or get a filter. Even leaving the water out overnight will reduce it.

 

[TxOld Dude]

Hey Bro,
Yeah just bubble your water for 24 hrs before use if you feel like it. That'll reduce most of it from the water. Mine is RO, but I keep a tub bubbling all the time to pre oxygenate before watering. If you're doing that already, your fine.

But then again...
If it isn't broke, don't fix it!



Fish

 

[pop22]

Hello!

For some time now in the US, municipal water supplies have been treated with chloramine, a mixture of chlorine and ammonia.

Here in the UK, water companies are also starting to do this.

My water provider (Severn Trent in East Midlands) uses chloramine and they say it's no good for hydroponics.

Are there any hydro growers out there who use tap water that is treated with chloramine ?

If so, are you filtering or using it straight, do you think or know that chloramine causes problems ?

Interesting discussion from some US gardeners here (not cannabis growers) :

http://forums.gardenweb.com/forums/load/hydro/msg01160852797.html?5

My water STINKS of chloramine but my soil grows did fine.


Cheers,

steely

here is some good info in the subject, and I'm glad you brought it up! I think this is the way to deal with chloramine.

"There is another way you can remove chloramine in the water and that is to oxidize it by adding more chlorine to it. This will produce mostly nitrogen gas and some nitrate, but also a small amount of nitrogen trichloride that is volatile. After the chloramine is oxidized, you can then dechlorinate the leftover chlorine in the water."

http://skepticalaquarist.com/chlorine-chloramine

"A simple faucet or under the counter tap water drinking carbon type filter can be used, but the unit must contain high quality carbon, and unless the water is allowed sufficient contact time, it may not be completely effective. Also, chloramines can exhaust carbon much faster than chlorine alone, and therefore filter cartridges need to be replaced more often. Buying a tap water filter that has an indicator that tells you when it's time to change the cartridge is a good investment here."

http://saltaquarium.about.com/od/aquariummaintenancecare/f/chloramineremoval.htm

I've also heard lemon juice works but I'm skeptical on that.

Update: this is from Wikipedia: "
[h=4]Ascorbic acid[/h] Ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbate completely neutralizes both chlorine and chloramines but degrades in a day or two, which make it usable only for short-term applications; SFPUC determined that 1000 mg of Vitamin C (tablets purchased in a grocery store, crushed and mixed in with the bath water) remove chloramine completely in a medium-size bathtub without significantly depressing pH.[SUP][15]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramine
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[pop22]

Hey Bro,
Yeah just bubble your water for 24 hrs before use if you feel like it. That'll reduce most of it from the water. Mine is RO, but I keep a tub bubbling all the time to pre oxygenate before watering. If you're doing that already, your fine.

But then again...
If it isn't broke, don't fix it!



Fish

bubbling even for a week won't remove chloromine

 

[steelrat]

Thanks my squirrel-eating friend, great reply

Yes, just so a couple of you guys know, chorAMINE ain't chlorINE. It doesn't go away just by leaving it standing.


Cheers pops, really helpful, repslap!

steely

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Got the message "you must spread some reputation around before giving it to pop22 again" !?

 

[pop22]

Thanks my squirrel-eating friend, great reply

Yes, just so a couple of you guys know, chorAMINE ain't chlorINE. It doesn't go away just by leaving it standing.


Cheers pops, really helpful, repslap!

steely

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Got the message "you must spread some reputation around before giving it to pop22 again" !?

Thanks Steelrat!

 

[Doulovebeef]

Don't worry man, my supply uses chloramine so I've done a lot of research into it, bubbling won't drive off chloramine, it's a chlorine molecule and a ammonia molecule, so it wants to say in solution! But no worries, we can destabilize it by adding 2-5ml per gal of humic acid to ur water a few hours before u need to use it, in this regard bubbling does help by keeping the solution moving around. I had great results with 2ml per gallon using a water test kit to check for chloramine, u can come by these at hardware stores and pool stores. Also, a more effective way of removing that nasty substance is by using a activated carbon filter, I have one tied in after my sediment filter, and before my RO membrane.