Extraction Alternatives to smoking, ideas please!

[uncanni]

Certainly there were other things that affected the quality of the high, but I've not seen any evidence for major psychoactivity of cannabis compounds other than thc.
There are some trichomes that are hard to see besides those big mushroom shaped ones.
Every cell in the plant has programmed into its dna how to produce thc.
I suspect that thc lives other places in the plant, in addition to the vast majority that exists in trichomes, and you might've gotten evidence for that.

Ok Simplicio, I'm going to approach what you are writing from a different angle and see if there is any space for a meeting of the minds.

Perhaps we are thinking about "high" in two entirely different ways. In a sense to me, each high is different from any other; on the one hand, there are all the subjective factors on the part of the person getting high including state of mind and context, and on the other, there' the synergy (I don't care for the term 'entourage efct') of the compounds in the strain being smoked. Perhaps I view "psychoactivity" in completely different terms, which may be why we are, I would say, articulating two different understandings of the same term.
High to me is a very complex phenomenon; you haven' happened to read the essay, "Cannabis: Stealth Goddess" by David Rushkoff? She requires something of us...

As for my reading of the articles, they went a long way in explaining all of the different nuances, characteristics and psycho-physical feelings of being high. So maybe what is essential to high to me is not for you.

 

[Simplicio]

Ok Simplicio, I'm going to approach what you are writing from a different angle and see if there is any space for a meeting of the minds.

Perhaps we are thinking about "high" in two entirely different ways. In a sense to me, each high is different from any other; on the one hand, there are all the subjective factors on the part of the person getting high including state of mind and context, and on the other, there' the synergy (I don't care for the term 'entourage efct') of the compounds in the strain being smoked. Perhaps I view "psychoactivity" in completely different terms, which may be why we are, I would say, articulating two different understandings of the same term.
High to me is a very complex phenomenon; you haven' happened to read the essay, "Cannabis: Stealth Goddess" by David Rushkoff? She requires something of us...

As for my reading of the articles, they went a long way in explaining all of the different nuances, characteristics and psycho-physical feelings of being high. So maybe what is essential to high to me is not for you.

You are over-thinking this.
The common definition of cannabis "high" is "thc intoxication."
Terpenes don't intoxicate in normal concentrations.
They might modify the high, or they might do almost nothing except smell funny.

Your articles hinted at what terpenes do, without presenting scientific evidence of them actually doing it.
It is fashionable these days to blame terpenes for differences among cannabis strains, but the differences among stains are probably much more complicated than just different amounts of different terpenes.
I suspect that there are more chemicals responsible for strain differences than just terpenes.
Maybe there are potent, hard to detect amounts of things that haven't even been discovered yet.

 

[uncanni]

Now you are condescending to me. Just because I think differently from you doesn't give you the right to pass judgement and conclude that I'm over-thinking. I just think differently from you.
You are also now admitting that THC is not the only compound responsible for the high.
I'm not interested any longer in a meeting of the minds with you; just accept that we don't interpret the data the same way.

 

[icmoon]

Hi there, I just purchased the Nova decarb machine, and I can't wait to try it. You can just put the decarbed bud under your tongue for real fast absorption. Once I learned that at least 50% of the good stuff is lost in combustion, I really lost interest in smoking weed. I do love my Plenty vaporizer, but I am really looking forward to making some longer-lasting medicines when my decarb machine arrives.

Hi from the UK.
Was thinking about buying the NOVA myself, it looks very interesting, have you tried it yet?

I quit smoking 12 years ago and am looking to get some kinda 100% indica from my 2nd grow. My 1st grow is a bit of a mixture, autos and photos but they are doing really well....Too well in fact as they are outgrowing my tent! I was going to make tinctures but more and more I'm looking at rosin extraction as it looks too easy.......I wonder?

Keep me informed if you would as you seem to be on a similar road to me.

Cheers

Cmoon

 

[Simplicio]

Hi from the UK.
Was thinking about buying the NOVA myself, it looks very interesting, have you tried it yet?

I quit smoking 12 years ago and am looking to get some kinda 100% indica from my 2nd grow. My 1st grow is a bit of a mixture, autos and photos but they are doing really well....Too well in fact as they are outgrowing my tent! I was going to make tinctures but more and more I'm looking at rosin extraction as it looks too easy.......I wonder?

Keep me informed if you would as you seem to be on a similar road to me.

Cheers

Cmoon

I like Ardent Lift (clone of Nova) so much that I own 2 of them. Each holds only 1/2 oz flower.

 

[uncanni]

Hi from the UK.
Was thinking about buying the NOVA myself, it looks very interesting, have you tried it yet?

I quit smoking 12 years ago and am looking to get some kinda 100% indica from my 2nd grow. My 1st grow is a bit of a mixture, autos and photos but they are doing really well....Too well in fact as they are outgrowing my tent! I was going to make tinctures but more and more I'm looking at rosin extraction as it looks too easy.......I wonder?

Keep me informed if you would as you seem to be on a similar road to me.

Cheers

Cmoon

Hello Cmoon,
My decarb machine arrives today!!! I want to use it to make cool tincture, i.e., tincture that doesn't require any more heat after decarb. I have a buddy on another forum whose machine arrived last week, and he made a tincture using Everclear alcohol and 14 grams of herb. He evaporated the everclear with a fan in a cool room until there was a small amount of alcohol left, added some vegetable glycerin, a little water and some flavoring, and ended up with 4 oz. of tincture. That's what I want to do as well. I will be growing some high CBD strains (am harvesting my current grow right now), and my main goal is to make CBD meds with the Nova.

 

[Simplicio]

Hello Cmoon,
My decarb machine arrives today!!! I want to use it to make cool tincture, i.e., tincture that doesn't require any more heat after decarb. I have a buddy on another forum whose machine arrived last week, and he made a tincture using Everclear alcohol and 14 grams of herb. He evaporated the everclear with a fan in a cool room until there was a small amount of alcohol left, added some vegetable glycerin, a little water and some flavoring, and ended up with 4 oz. of tincture. That's what I want to do as well. I will be growing some high CBD strains (am harvesting my current grow right now), and my main goal is to make CBD meds with the Nova.

Ardent just came out with some research on decarbing cbd.
They say that when thc-a is also present, cbd-a decarbs just like thc-a.
Without thc-a present, cbd-a takes almost twice as long to decarb at the same temp as thc-a.
Previously I'd been told by them that running Lift/Nova twice was needed, but their new research indicates that one run is enough.

 

[uncanni]

Ardent just came out with some research on decarbing cbd.
They say that when thc-a is also present, cbd-a decarbs just like thc-a.
Without thc-a present, cbd-a takes almost twice as long to decarb at the same temp as thc-a.
Previously I'd been told by them that running Lift/Nova twice was needed, but their new research indicates that one run is enough.

They sent me the same information. This is why I chose various strains that have a 1:1 THC/CBD ratio for my current grow. (I put off the Candida.)

They are germinating, and the 2 CBD Nordles have already burst forth!!

 

[Dsnip]

Jesus a bit of an argument going on here lol.

Anyway! If decided Il make some canna capsules!

I got about 3 oz from the grow and I can't stand smoking so it's time to make some capsules.

But as ever I have questions!

During the decarbolaxing can I keep the ground bud in a jar whilst in the oven?? To stop the smell??.

What kinda ratios should I aim for?? (Using buds not trim) and it's not strong not is it shit.. I think.

Any links to a step by step that you yourself have followed would be appreciated ( their is plenty of guides out there but u never know which are tryed and tested)

Thanks guys!

 

[uncanni]

Jesus a bit of an argument going on here lol.

Anyway! If decided Il make some canna capsules!

I got about 3 oz from the grow and I can't stand smoking so it's time to make some capsules.

But as ever I have questions!

During the decarbolaxing can I keep the ground bud in a jar whilst in the oven?? To stop the smell??.

What kinda ratios should I aim for?? (Using buds not trim) and it's not strong not is it shit.. I think.

Any links to a step by step that you yourself have followed would be appreciated ( their is plenty of guides out there but u never know which are tryed and tested)

Thanks guys!

Hey Dsnip, Look into the Nova decarboxylator machine; I just got one and it's fantastic. Really no smell, and the bud always comes out perfect, with all terpenes intact, as you can smell! I made tincture, and it is fabulous!!

I wanted to use as little heat as was necessary, and I made the tincture with decarbed trim and a little bud and 190 proof Everclear, and put it in the freezer for a week. Then I strained it and put it in the dropper bottles. One dropperful keeps me feeling relaxed and mellow for 7 hours.