Harvest & Curing Amber tricomes vs. Mostly white pistils (medical grow)

[TimeTraveler]

Along the same line, I've always been curious as to just what makes a Sativa high different from an Indica. It I know pure Sativas have little or no CBD, but some Indicas don't either. Is there any fact based information on this?

I don't have the genetic or lab tests to explain it, but generally Sativa strains are responsible for the cerebral effects of a high (time dilation, energetic feeling, mental focus), while Indica strains tend to create the physical effects (sedation, pain relief, increased appetite, anti-nausea). Cross-breeding between the strains has been extensive over the years, so obviously most strains have some of both, and even pure Indica or Sativa have some of the other effects, but the ones tied to their strains tend to be dominant (i.e., an Indica might cause you to feel alert and time to slow, but it's likely the couchlock and appetite increase will be MUCH more noticeable, while a Sativa might still bring pain relief but the energetic feeling and "up" aspect of the high will probably be the strongest part of the experience).

There's been VERY little proper research (in a lab setting, I mean) as to what the various cannibinoids DO, how they interact and what they cause, and so on. By and large all we have to go on is user experience and what little information has been gleaned from a laboratory setting.

I've tried a number of strains on both ends (probably not as many as most of the members here, I'm sure), but Sativas and Sativa-dominant strains are my favorites because I prefer an energetic, "up" high with feelings of focus and time dilation. Couchlock and sedated highs can be fun from time to time, but generally I dislike losing hours of my day to sitting around in a euphoric stupor, and don't have the body aches or pains that causes medicinal users to seek out potent sedative strains.

 

[Magic]

Along the same line, I've always been curious as to just what makes a Sativa high different from an Indica. It I know pure Sativas have little or no CBD, but some Indicas don't either. Is there any fact based information on this?

Talk to DubV!:stylez rasta smoke:

 

[pop22]

I don't have the genetic or lab tests to explain it, but generally Sativa strains are responsible for the cerebral effects of a high (time dilation, energetic feeling, mental focus), while Indica strains tend to create the physical effects (sedation, pain relief, increased appetite, anti-nausea). Cross-breeding between the strains has been extensive over the years, so obviously most strains have some of both, and even pure Indica or Sativa have some of the other effects, but the ones tied to their strains tend to be dominant (i.e., an Indica might cause you to feel alert and time to slow, but it's likely the couchlock and appetite increase will be MUCH more noticeable, while a Sativa might still bring pain relief but the energetic feeling and "up" aspect of the high will probably be the strongest part of the experience).

There's been VERY little proper research (in a lab setting, I mean) as to what the various cannibinoids DO, how they interact and what they cause, and so on. By and large all we have to go on is user experience and what little information has been gleaned from a laboratory setting.

I've tried a number of strains on both ends (probably not as many as most of the members here, I'm sure), but Sativas and Sativa dominant strains are my favorites because I prefer an energetic, "up" high with feelings of focus and time dilation. Couchlock and sedated highs can be fun from time to time, but generally I dislike losing hours of my day to sitting around in a euphoric stupor, and don't have the body aches or pains that causes medicinal users to seek out potent sedative strains.

Most of the weed I smoked in the 60's and 70's was pure Sativa. Most of what I use now Indica dominant but some Sativa dom also, usually hard to tell the difference. With a pure, to mostly Sativa however, yes, I know there's a very noticeable difference. I just wonder why. THC is THC right? or maybe not. Or completely different terpinoids. SOMETHING must caused the difference. Ohh well, may be one of those questions I'll never see answered...l

 

[TimeTraveler]

Most of the weed I smoked in the 60's and 70's was pure Sativa. Most of what I use now Indica dominant but some Sativa dom also, usually hard to tell the difference. With a pure, to mostly Sativa however, yes, I know there's a very noticeable difference. I just wonder why. THC is THC right? or maybe not. Or completely different terpinoids. SOMETHING must caused the difference. Ohh well, may be one of those questions I'll never see answered...l

It's worth noting that dozens (at least 85 according to this study) of unique cannibinoids have been isolated in the cannabis plant. Every attempt to isolate just one to recreate a specific aspect of the marijuana high has fallen flat in some manner (pure THC alone doesn't create every aspect of the high, and CBD-only extracts provide only a fraction of the utility of whole-plant medicinal cannabis despite the notion that CBD is responsible for the majority of the "body high").

Cannabis is a stunningly complex plant, and it's likely those wide variety of sub-chemicals and their unique distribution, concentration, and presence or absence in a given strain all work together to create the specific high of that strain. You might get to see that question answered, IF we ever get cannabis legal enough to permit proper research into it.

Cocaine is a similar situation, after all. Extensive research into coca plants and their refinement has yielded a wide variety of pain relievers and analgesics. It stands to reason proper research into cannabis would yield similar information about the many chemical substances it creates.

Or, you could just say "fuck it" and smoke a bowl. It works for me.

 

[MedGrower]

Or, you could just say "fuck it" and smoke a bowl. It works for me.

:Haha:

Well said. Yeah bro. Until someone comes out with a groundbreaking study to reveal the ultimate truth about all the interactions of all the elements in cannabis in relation to the effect it will give based on individual people with variations in their genes also; I will keep it simple and think on terms of sativa vs. indica and THC / CBD / CBN and that's it.

But I in the end of the day I think I am now convinced that the colour of the pistils doesn't really tell you anything about the maturity of the plant reliably but the state of the tricomes supercedes it. Nobody really confirmed that for me but I see that lack of responses on that matter can only mean that you agree.

Thank you all for such a flood of info :tiphat:

 

[pop22]

It's worth noting that dozens (at least 85 according to this study) of unique cannibinoids have been isolated in the cannabis plant. Every attempt to isolate just one to recreate a specific aspect of the marijuana high has fallen flat in some manner (pure THC alone doesn't create every aspect of the high, and CBD-only extracts provide only a fraction of the utility of whole-plant medicinal cannabis despite the notion that CBD is responsible for the majority of the "body high").

Cannabis is a stunningly complex plant, and it's likely those wide variety of sub-chemicals and their unique distribution, concentration, and presence or absence in a given strain all work together to create the specific high of that strain. You might get to see that question answered, IF we ever get cannabis legal enough to permit proper research into it.

Cocaine is a similar situation, after all. Extensive research into coca plants and their refinement has yielded a wide variety of pain relievers and analgesics. It stands to reason proper research into cannabis would yield similar information about the many chemical substances it creates.

Or, you could just say "fuck it" and smoke a bowl. It works for me.

I was reading a free sample of a cana science book ( can't shuck out $215 for book... ) and got some great tidbits of info. There are 585 known cannabinoids, including 8 types of THC and 2 types of CBD. So I figure this alone tells us a possible reason. And I like the fuckit smoke a bowl option myself!! :Sharing One:

 

[Qupid]

I think I remember reading about pure sativas having a lot more thc-v in them while indicas don't so much, that might be a factor

 

[growbeast]

I do not have info to share, do not have a link to post, just admiring all the information hundreds if not thousands of people now have due to this thread. And this is one of many. love me my afn

 

[pop22]

I just read in Greg Green's book, that you can have new, white pistils even after the prime harvest time is past. If you have even a few red pistils that have shriveled, that can be a sign she's close to ready. but the state of the trichs is the only accurate way to tell. Personally, I harvest as soon as most are cloudy. You'll find some turn amber even after the buds are harvested.

:Haha:

Well said. Yeah bro. Until someone comes out with a groundbreaking study to reveal the ultimate truth about all the interactions of all the elements in cannabis in relation to the effect it will give based on individual people with variations in their genes also; I will keep it simple and think on terms of sativa vs. indica and THC / CBD / CBN and that's it.

But I in the end of the day I think I am now convinced that the colour of the pistils doesn't really tell you anything about the maturity of the plant reliably but the state of the tricomes supercedes it. Nobody really confirmed that for me but I see that lack of responses on that matter can only mean that you agree.

Thank you all for such a flood of info :tiphat:

 

[Tetra9]

If you're "hungry" for knowledge .. you can work up an "Apatite" (lol) here.

http://montanabiotech.com/2013/03/2...thcv-cbg-and-other-unique-phyto-cannabinoids/

This is xtra cute cuzz the Avatar you use.... That being said, I can sympathize. I can't spell anymore. I'm only 34 and have had a collegiate reading/spelling level since grade school. It left me at some point. Thank the Gods for spell check !