auto Jack Herer i think over watering help

[looplife]

Hello guys i ran into another problem if you guys can tell me whats wrong well i started some new seeds and it seems like there drying up or not doing so well i have this one that only sprouted and i hope will make it that 1 problem

next is my plants jack hearers autos are not doing so good they are look sad droopy with watering i water around the stem and the base but i have not fully drench the pots only after they started to look bad because of nutrient burn or hot fox farm as well etc if u guys can tell me whats wrong or if u need more pics let me know thanks

 

[Fuggzy]

Hi looplife. How far away are you lights? They look pretty close in the pic. If you could take a picture in natural/white light it would be easier to see the plant. M first guess would be the light is to close, and stressing the plant out. Although you light isn't burning them with heat, the actual spectrum is still very powerful, and can damage the tissues. Most manufactures recommend 18-24" at this stage I believe.

 

[looplife]

they were too close before i moved them up i will take some more pics thank u for taking the time out to help me the lights are right at 23 cm

temps humidity is good i don't know if they got root rot or not either someone i spoke with said that if pouring too close to the stem can cause this as well and this will lead to other things going wrong with em now last time i fed them normally it was everyday but since they got a lil bigger i would let them go few more hrs so instead doing it around 12 at night i started doing it around 3 am sometimes at 12 i will water them but now last time i did it i drenched the pots i have as best i could this way i wait to water again in like another day would be 3 days till i give it water again i hope it don't suffer to bed I'm out of auto flowers rite now and i have no pollen to try and make more so I'm fucked if nothing comes up from this set how ever i started 3 more 2 did good the other one no signs of life as of rite now

 

[Fuggzy]

Hi again looplife, thanks for the pictures. 23cm is only 9 inches. I would move it up to 45cm, and see how the plant reacts. Give them a day at that height, and see how the look. When using LED there will be a "sweet spot" where the plant is happy with the amount of light it is getting. As the plant gets older it will be able to take more light, but in the stage it is a bit more tender.

Which LED do you have, and how many watts is it rated at?

Over watering is a very common issue with new growers. A good way to know when the soil needs water, is to get familiar with how much it weighs. After a feeding, pick up the pot, and try to remember how it feels. There is a large difference between dry, and wet soil. After a little bit of time, you will just be able to pick up the pot, and know if it needs water.

With watering there are a few recommended ways to go about it. First off, you need to try and be on a
schedule, and be consistent.

I personally water every day, from seed to harvest. I start by using a spray bottle, and wet the topsoil. Then when the seed sprouts, I pour the feed at about 150-250ml and work my way up while the plant grows. When i do water/feed I will pour it on the outside rim of the pot. Like the last 2". This encourages the roots to look for water, and also helps the center of the pot not get to wet.

Also do you have a fan in there circulating the air?

Edited for spelling.

 

[looplife]

yea i have a grow dairy floating around and will be updating it when i can figure out how to move my notes from my phone to here

i have a16 inch fan in my bro daddy box with 2 meds both 5 was chips i forgot what they pushing one is a mars led and the other is from the hydroponic group that came with the grow box yes i spray the top when seedlings and sprouting first week i was watering everyday at 9 o clock then the pots started to dry out more i think so i started doing it at different times if i do it at night time at 12 on the dot that kinda helps me count it as 2 days just incase i forget to or cant water them right away thank u again i will also bring the lights up more

 

[shadytrees88]

Yea I definatly would move the lights up . I
Run leds and hid and I start out at like 2 foot I know a lot of people wanna get there lights as close as they can but I like to run mine a lil higher keep them leaves prayin good stretch but still get that penetration I've run this method time and time again and have no issues with small or slow growth or anything
The pic are not autos but my
Outdoor crop autos will start next week these lights are 18 to 24 inchs led in middle works great for me
I run 2 400w mh genenesis bulbs 220 w Cali work solar flare full cycle and a 50 w led side light , in a 4x5 tent ...

 

[looplife]

i also had some nutrient or soil props I'm using fox farm soil ocean forest with this grow and fox farm line of nutriments called dirty dozen i first had signs of the plant needing some love when the leaves were curling and leaves having a weird whitish color to them like mold or mildew but it wasn't it was just nutrients or the soil being too hit i now have sunshine mix number 4 witch i have been testing out and using for my second grow i mixed it with some fox farm happy frog and as well as ocean forest

reason i think it was over watered or i did that one day a dude said hurry and flush ur plants so in other words i drowned them girls till i saw run off a good amount of run off too could doing that cause this as well just because of that one day some one also thought it could be root rot

 

[shadytrees88]

I'm doin some playin with the led in the middle might end up moving to a side and angling ain't sure yet still in experiment mode but those small plants are only 4 weeks old and they have been tied down and LST there 15 inchs tall and the ones on the right are 7 weeks old and over 24 inchs if I hadn't super cropped tops and LST them that's with high lights . I've had acceptable success with runnin two smaller hids vs one 600 and side lights...

 

[looplife]

here is my grow diary i have started i have not added much but when posting back on old threads it seems no one like to comment anymore lol

https://www.autoflower.org/threads/looplife-seed-of-life-grow.51164/page-2#post-1016958

 

[looplife]

see with autos i want to high lst but i was told any of it will not babe good maybe small or low lst will work but my dumbass put the plants in a bit further thinking they were going to stretch and yet i have short ones that early come over the pot now so my next set i decided to fill the pots up all the way i also loose a lot of soil from these airpots i use so the soil has went down witch is a good thing but i don't have enough space to put a lot of soil either thank u brother both of u i cant run hid or mh just because its a lot for me to control temps etc a lot harder so led is my way of going for now