Lighting Blue AutoMazar - DWC Round 2 by Pal

[Pal23]

Day 31.

Hey guys, snapped a few pics today since I had a little shuffle around in the tent. I added about 4/5L of water to top up BAM today and added 10ml of Vega A+B to keep the EC at 0.8. It had dropped to 0.7 again indicating she wants more food but I want to take it slow with her since she was overfed in the early days. If it drops again tomorrow I will set the res at 0.9. The end of week 5 is day 35 and she will get a res change on day 36 following her schedule so far. I will make the switch to flowering nutes then unless anyone else has a better suggestion for me I think I will do a straight switch between the vega and flores just to keep it simple.
She's a pretty decent size now and the bud sites are starting to develop now, I've been leaf tucking along the way to help the smaller sites find some light. Out from under the LED her colour is lush green, the flash doesn't really help matters but she is healthy as far as I can tell.
I inspected the roots again today and I noticed a few brown/dying ones..it's weird because the res temp has never gone above 21 degrees, and that was only for one day - on average it sits between 17-19 so I can't see rot being a problem. The majority of roots are okay, some slight staining from the nutes. I have some Plant Magic Granules (google it) but I'm not sure if I can add this to the res. It's one of the ingredients for a bennie tea, just wondering if it would do anything on it's own
Any comments or advice hit me up :Sharing One:

 

[pasimito]

Hi mate glad everything going ok. I am in same doubts right now, when to switch to bloom nutes.

 

[pop22]

Day 31.

Hey guys, snapped a few pics today since I had a little shuffle around in the tent. I added about 4/5L of water to top up BAM today and added 10ml of Vega A+B to keep the EC at 0.8. It had dropped to 0.7 again indicating she wants more food but I want to take it slow with her since she was overfed in the early days. If it drops again tomorrow I will set the res at 0.9. The end of week 5 is day 35 and she will get a res change on day 36 following her schedule so far. I will make the switch to flowering nutes then unless anyone else has a better suggestion for me I think I will do a straight switch between the vega and flores just to keep it simple.
She's a pretty decent size now and the bud sites are starting to develop now, I've been leaf tucking along the way to help the smaller sites find some light. Out from under the LED her colour is lush green, the flash doesn't really help matters but she is healthy as far as I can tell.
I inspected the roots again today and I noticed a few brown/dying ones..it's weird because the res temp has never gone above 21 degrees, and that was only for one day - on average it sits between 17-19 so I can't see rot being a problem. The majority of roots are okay, some slight staining from the nutes. I have some Plant Magic Granules (google it) but I'm not sure if I can add this to the res. It's one of the ingredients for a bennie tea, just wondering if it would do anything on it's own

I'm a noob to this, but I have done a lot of homework. Its my understanding that brown roots is sometimes just staining from the nutes you use. I don't know but I would think, roots are no different than leaves, sometimes they die. I believe I read root rot ( Pythium? ) will leave the roots slimely and will smell bad. Maybe someone who knows more will chime in, but I drained my res and scrubbed and disinfected it because I imagined I saw fungus...lol! So far, my girls are looking very healthy! :Sharing One:

 

[Pal23]

I'm a noob to this, but I have done a lot of homework. Its my understanding that brown roots is sometimes just staining from the nutes you use. I don't know but I would think, roots are no different than leaves, sometimes they die. I believe I read root rot ( Pythium? ) will leave the roots slimely and will smell bad. Maybe someone who knows more will chime in, but I drained my res and scrubbed and disinfected it because I imagined I saw fungus...lol! So far, my girls are looking very healthy! :Sharing One:

thanks for chiming in bro, everybody has to start somewhere and sometimes reading is all you can do! I always worry too much and this grow has been pretty laid back so far so I'm due some drama I will continue to monitor and keep you all updated

 

[DWCocha]

Shes lookin fit bro :Sharing One:my 2c ... deffo up EC 0.2 by next res change (d35) ...run veg for longer is you want bigger plants that will take a bit longer & think about introducing the boost soon (nxt res) ,in small amounts ( 5/10ml)& work up to hit 4mpl @ PK week...did this with the MM's & there doing ok plus swapped the veg to bloom gradually (think they liked that too!)

roots... if you have been letting the res empty 5L before topping off ,that's prob stain & I got a bit OCD about keeping the res full for a while coz of it but you should be good with those temps dude

 

[Hazy]

: ...run veg for longer is you want bigger plants that will take a bit longer

I get a little confused when i hear this, The question i have to ask is. How do you KNOW that the plant is bigger because you have kept it on grow nutes? You see i have run the experiment and i'm affraid from what i've seen, all you do is slow the plant flowering but i saw no evidence that the plants were any bigger than the plants that were switched earlier. I 'm more inclined to think that it's genetics that is determining the size of the plants. Again i have to repeat switching to bloom before vertical growth stops with DP strains, in no way from what i've witnessed, stops or even slows down the vertical stretch. I'm not trying to be a dick about this, I just think more people need to run the experiment before we can make the quantum leap that delaying flowering, makes for bigger plants. My plants average 1m+. Do you really need bigger plants than that indoors? as this is about the limit of penetration you're going to get from even the best light out there."My 2 cents"

Sorry for the highjack Pal :Sharing One:

 

[DWCocha]

I get a little confused when i hear this, The quesion i have to ask is. How do you KNOW that the plant is bigger because you have kept it on grow nutes? You see i have run the experiment and i'm affraid from what i've seen, all you do is slow the plant flowering but i saw no evidence that the plants were any bigger than the plants that were switched earlier. I 'm more inclined to think that it's genetics that is determing the size of the plants. Again i have to repeat switching to bloom before vertical growth stops with DP strains, in no way from what i've witnessed, stops or even slows down the vertical stretch. I'm not trying to be a dick about this, I just think more people need to run the experiment before we can make the quantum leap that delaying flowering, makes for bigger plants. My plants average 1m+. Do you really need bigger plants than that indoors? as this is about the limit of penetration you're going to get from even the best light out there."My 2 cents"

Sorry for the highjack Pal :Sharing One:

yea I get a bit confused about the grow/bloom switch thing too.I don't "KNOW" anything Hazy ,just putting ideas out there that have been suggested to me so Pals got some other options to try if he likes . I gotta agree that dropping grow early does not slow vertical growth coz I switched at d30 on the automazar grow & she carried on stretching till the tent was full .... the MishMash grow im running now I switched much later (week 6 ish ?) & #'1 is looking almost finished with fat colas on d70 so from what ive seen keeping them on grow doesn't "delay flowering" either ???. So nothings written in stone I guess :Sharing One:

 

[Pal23]

We all know there's a 1000 different ways to get the job done, so thanks to both of you for attempting some answers. The best thing we can do is try it ourselves until it's a proven method, nobody could argue against both of your results so far I'll be back with a game plan before next res change so I know exactly what I'm doing

 

[Happy Horticulturist]

Hi Pal!

Nice plants so far. Looking really good. I'm going to bookmark this and tag along. I doubt I can offer you any advice as I'm pretty sure you know more than me. However I will be here to cheer you along and watch your progress with interest Plants grown in DWC usually look really nice and I can't wait to try DWC myself soon.

My plants average 1m+. Do you really need bigger plants than that indoors? as this is about the limit of penetration you're going to get from even the best light out there.

When I first dabbled in growing as a young'un my only source of information what so ever was from the one guy who owned and worked in this little local grow shop of mine (this is pre-internet days). He told me that the light only penetrates the plant abour 2-3 feet maximum and the light intensity drops off about 50% per foot. So he would recommend flowering the plants at 12 inches tall at the most. For me that's always worked well and growing tall plants has always worked out pretty badly for me. However then I see people like Mr Gangamoto growing these massive monsters so I dunno...


~Happy~

 

[Pal23]

Hi Pal!

Nice plants so far. Looking really good. I'm going to bookmark this and tag along. I doubt I can offer you any advice as I'm pretty sure you know more than me. However I will be here to cheer you along and watch your progress with interest Plants grown in DWC usually look really nice and I can't wait to try DWC myself soon.



When I first dabbled in growing as a young'un my only source of information what so ever was from the one guy who owned and worked in this little local grow shop of mine (this is pre-internet days). He told me that the light only penetrates the plant abour 2-3 feet maximum and the light intensity drops off about 50% per foot. So he would recommend flowering the plants at 12 inches tall at the most. For me that's always worked well and growing tall plants has always worked out pretty badly for me. However then I see people like Mr Gangamoto growing these massive monsters so I dunno...


~Happy~

Thanks for stopping by Happy, the more the merrier around here even if it's just tagging along for the ride.
I would imagine that since those pre internet days lighting has come a long way and can penetrate better than years ago. Also genetics of strains are playing a big part on plant size these days, things only get better with time which is why were now seeing some monsters here on the forum, Mr G handles it very well with good nutes and varied light spectrum, more watts than I could wrap my head around
The only time I see taller plants producing less is when there isn't enough light of food to fatten her up, sometimes they look a little stretched and the buds are all spaced out rather than big long colas. Getting the tallest plant is never my objective, just to keep trying to beat my personal best on yield/quality which I have done so far :Sharing One: