i get the gallon spring water at walmart which has a ph of 6.2! walmarts distilled ph is right at 7! just remember not Nutes for 4 weeks for autos,after that week 5 and 6 can get veg nutes but start slow, like a woman, find out what she likes, haha! you can always add more, you cant take them out! oh and another thing if you smoke cigs, DO NOT TOUCH YOUR PLANTS WITH OUT WASHING YOUR HANDS! NICOTINE WILL KILL YOUR SHIT!